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    I highly doubt that enlarging the gas port is going to help. I would ask them straight to the point what size the port is currently on this barrel and then get back to us.

    If you can return the weapon, then I would explore that option. There is a possibility that the bolt catch is not working right, but that should be fairly easy to determine.

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    Not yet. It's been a crazy few days, but I've got some free time today. I'll take some pictures.

    I got in touch with the place where I got it. One of their people said they may have to increase the size of the gas ports at the gas block. They said they would re-stake everything once they're certain its functioning correctly. We'll see.



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    Well i took the gun in for repair. We sat there for about an hour trying different mags in different guns. Couldn't figure it out so i left the gun to be taken to the range and test fired. The guy called me this.morning and told me he took off.the BAD Lever and it locks back every time. Im gonna see if that fixes it and go from there.

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    You didn't think to mention earlier in the thread that you were running a BAD lever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnoe82 View Post
    Well i took the gun in for repair. We sat there for about an hour trying different mags in different guns. Couldn't figure it out so i left the gun to be taken to the range and test fired. The guy called me this.morning and told me he took off.the BAD Lever and it locks back every time. Im gonna see if that fixes it and go from there.
    Interesting find.

    Briefly going back over the previous two pages of suggestions, I don't believe anyone asked about after-market accessories added to the weapon.

    I briefly touched on after eliminating the gas system, looking at mechanical issues, but never once did I think to ask about accessories added to the weapon.

    Once you get the weapon back and can re-examine it, if the BAD truly was at fault please let us know the specifics. I'm currently working on an extensive troubleshooting chart and might be able to add some valuable info based off your findings.
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    if there isnt enough play in the bolt catch it might not be as quick to catch the bolt before it cycles. Obviously weighing it down with a BAD will make it even slower. Too tight of a tolerance on the bolt catch + a BAD will cause bolt lock back problems. I have 4 BADs that work fine, all 4 of them have a bit of play in the bolt catches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    You didn't think to mention earlier in the thread that you were running a BAD lever?
    Nope. People recommend magpul products very heavily throughout the shooting community and this forum. Your statement implies that using a bad lever is wrong? I don't get it.

    There's plenty of play in the bolt catch. That's the first.thing i checked as did the manufacturer.
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    I think ( IMHO ) that what he meant was you didn't give the group ALL the information. A simple mention of the BAD would have produced a few replies of "some folks have reported issues locking back with a BAD on their rifle".
    I run Tacticallink BAL's and a phase V. I have taken my Bolt catches & stoned them to remove the ROUGH finish on the sides that touch the receiver & re-Oxided them. they work smooth as glass & I've NEVER had an issue locking back on the last round. Before I smoothed them out they had a slightly discernable drag feel to them. that drag might be just enough on your rifle to prevent the desired lockback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnoe82 View Post
    Nope. People recommend magpul products very heavily throughout the shooting community and this forum. Your statement implies that using a bad lever is wrong? I don't get it.
    No: I use BAD levers and have no issue with them. That said, you are having an issue with your bolt catch and the BAD lever clamps directly to your bolt catch. It is not a stock item. Therefore, I'd figure it would be worth mentioning... kind of like if you were having issues with your trigger group you might mention that you were using KNS anti-rotation pins with it.

    It just becomes extremely difficult to help people diagnose a problem when they aren't forthright with all the information. Without all of the information to go off of, it becomes a guessing game.

    If you had mentioned the BAD lever from the beginning, people might have asked you whether the problem ever existed before installation of the BAD. Was the first time this happened (when you thought it was fixed) with or without the BAD? Have you ever had this problem without the BAD installed?

    I'm also guessing someone would have suggested trying the rifle without the BAD within the first reply or two had the information been upfront.

    I'm not trying to be harsh. I know that we all have to learn somewhere. I'm just hopefully making a point for the next time you are trying to diagnose something. The more information you give, the quicker and better you can diagnose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnoe82 View Post
    Nope. People recommend magpul products very heavily throughout the shooting community and this forum. Your statement implies that using a bad lever is wrong? I don't get it.
    It's wrong if it's demonstrated itself to consistently cause problems.

    In your case you're saying that without the BAD(the gun is actually designed to be) it's functioning normally, and when it's installed(something that the rifle can normally accommodate but is not in the design) you are having problems. The answer just kind of screams out.

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    Not that the BAD lever is wrong, but when you add something to the weapon and it starts malfunctioning that is usually a good indication that something is wrong.

    There have been a few other posts here about people having issues with the BAD. If I were to guess I would say that the added weight of the BAD is impeding the proper function of the bolt lock and release. Anything that causes my weapon to malfunction goes in the TRASH can.

    Quote Originally Posted by mnoe82 View Post
    Nope. People recommend magpul products very heavily throughout the shooting community and this forum. Your statement implies that using a bad lever is wrong? I don't get it.

    There's plenty of play in the bolt catch. That's the first.thing i checked as did the manufacturer.
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