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    I see your point. I shouldve been more clear. Change rails "should you choose to do so" is what I shouldve said.
    On the subject of barrels, Im simply putting out the fact that with the MRP, you are limited to barrels threaded for the MRP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRIDENT82 View Post
    REALLY.....

    A DD GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO CHANGE RAILS AS YOU PLEASE

    I am not sure about you, but i never SWAP out my RAILS depending on the MISSION.......Barrels, yes....and LMT/Mike Rock happen to make some of the nicest barrels around(esp. the SS models)

    You should start to research now all the DIFFERENT LENGTHS, CALIBERS, GAS SYSTEMS....and I bet it takes you 30 min. to come up with the MASSIVE list of aftermarket or interchangeable MRP barrels.

    Last thing I am going to say....if you want a solid quality, good gun.....by all means get the DD, however I cannot sit here and read BOGUS SCIENCE and NON ISSUES used to justify not buying IMHO, THE VERY BEST AR PLATFORM IN THE GAME...THE MRP.

    COME ON, are we really debating a traditional nice DD gun..VS. Mr. Do it all, and arguable the best at all it does...the MRP
    I like monolithic profile receivers, but here is the one and only reason I wont own one.

    If you **** up the rail somehow (Murphy's an asshole) then you have to replace the entire stripped receiver.
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    good point. Or if there's a new kind of rail you want you can't really take apart a mono. For instance i'm starting to feel like the tube with bolt-on rail sections is the way to go. I can just go out and buy one and swap it out.

    Personally I'd rather have quick-change uppers than quick-change barrels. If I have to change a barrel out I'm going to rezero which is a PITA compared to just slapping on a new upper and heading out. I know manufacturers claim their product will hold POI, usually within 1 MOA, but I never trust that. With my SCAR if I change a barrel or optic it gets rezeroed, period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkmckinley View Post
    good point. Or if there's a new kind of rail you want you can't really take apart a mono. For instance i'm starting to feel like the tube with bolt-on rail sections is the way to go. I can just go out and buy one and swap it out.

    Personally I'd rather have quick-change uppers than quick-change barrels. If I have to change a barrel out I'm going to rezero which is a PITA compared to just slapping on a new upper and heading out. I know manufacturers claim their product will hold POI, usually within 1 MOA, but I never trust that. With my SCAR if I change a barrel or optic it gets rezeroed, period.
    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    I like monolithic profile receivers, but here is the one and only reason I wont own one.

    If you **** up the rail somehow (Murphy's an asshole) then you have to replace the entire stripped receiver.
    I am sorry gents....but those last two posts are BLASPHEMY.

    I can email Ryan or Gene at LMT to inquire about HOW MANY ACTUAL BENT OR BROKEN MONOLITHIC RAIL PLATFORM CHASSIS'S have occurred since the inception in roughly OCT 04'......however, i can all but promise you can count the number of times on one hand.

    MURPHY has jack shit to do with HIGH QUALITY AR GEAR, MURPHY IS A CHIC IDEOLOGY....and obviously some of you gents have yet to be informed that MRPs are on the same shelf with Johnnie Walker Blue....which is on the HIGHEST SHELF.

    This is at least the second post in the last month or two when you guys keep bringing this "broken rail" stuff outta the wood works.....

    2 reasons why you guys clearly are speaking on something you have very little technical knowledge on......

    1.) If you guys had done a dimes worth of googling, etc on bent or broken MRP chassis's....you would have found a quick answer.....NO SEARCH RESULTS AVAIL. Come on fellows, at least pick a realistic flaw of the MRP....if the worst thing about the MRP system is the potential for me to bend one of those "dumb single piece chassis systems machined from ONE SINGLE 8LB BAR OF ALUMINUM STOCK that unequivocally provide the most rigid and truly free floated platform in which to seek out accuracy from within all others in the market.

    2.) Second reason your typing is far exceeding your tech knowledge on this subject........

    If you guys can honestly say that carrying a 4-5lb 10.5" sbr upper.... a 6-7lb 16" piston upper.....a 9-10lb 18" SS SPR upper

    VS.

    CARRYING THREE FREAKING BARRELS AND ONE PISTON BCG that interchange with ONE MINUTE....(A SIMPLE MATING OF A UPPER AND LOWER GENERALLY AT LEAST TAKE THAT LONG)

    than, there is absolutely no type of empirical data or stone cold facts that I can lay on you gents to change your preconceived ideas on the MRP system or at least to dispell this UN-FREAKING-REAL BENT MRP RAIL BLASPEMY

    The only thing that breaks on the MRP uppers in when someone is careless and overtorques a bolt....IT SHEERS A BOLT THAT IS SPECIFICALLY ENGINEERED TO POP AT A CERTAIN TORQUE VALUE RATHER THAN POTENTIALLY BREAKING OR DAMAGING THE ACTUAL CHASSIS ITSELF.....the bolts are a shade less the $10 a piece and so far I have heard of less than 10 accounts of dummies over torquing the bolts and sheering one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh_rob View Post
    Thanks to you all for your very informative and professional opinions. I had a gut feeling to go with the DD and your insight kind of reaffirmed that for me. The MRP I will look into, however, I don't think that I really have a need for all of the functionality. If I need a different caliber I believe that would be grounds for me to convince my wife that I need another gun.?!

    For the price I found the weapon at I don't think it can be beat. Customer service is HUGE and everyone seems to be very satisfied with the folks at DD.

    Again, thank you very much for your help and I will continue to monitor this posting for a couple months or so and see if anyone else has an opinion as I can not move further in my purchase until I return home from the war zone. Take care.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TRIDENT82 View Post
    2.) Second reason your typing is far exceeding your tech knowledge on this subject........

    If you guys can honestly say that carrying a 4-5lb 10.5" sbr upper.... a 6-7lb 16" piston upper.....a 9-10lb 18" SS SPR upper

    VS.

    CARRYING THREE FREAKING BARRELS AND ONE PISTON BCG that interchange with ONE MINUTE....(A SIMPLE MATING OF A UPPER AND LOWER GENERALLY AT LEAST TAKE THAT LONG)
    Well it looks like you've mastered the use of emoticons and all-caps typing. You seem to be really super at internet research too. I have to ask, oh learned one: what unit are you in where you carry three barrels around and it takes you a minute to put on an M4 upper?
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    You are right....I went epic with the emoticons in the last post....a whopping two

    The one minute thing.....sadly, I am a shortbus rider that has yet to grasp the elusive skill set required to mate the upper and lower.

    Quite frankly the last thing I want to do is talk you three cats into a MRP...at this point I figure you guys would use them as baby seal clubs til they BENT or BROKE

    Oh well, I said my piece but as long as I hear the incredibly bonkers statements regarding MRPs bending and breaking and cannot help but set the record straight since we are on M4C, and not TOS......I have absolutely no problem correcting blasphemy anytime I hear as I hope others correct blasphemy if it ever comes from me.

    ETA....As for what unit I am currently serving in......It's the 133rd. MIGHTY MALL NINJA MILITIA

    Buy DD's, Save MRP's

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRIDENT82 View Post
    ETA....As for what unit I am currently serving in......It's the 133rd. MIGHTY MALL NINJA MILITIA
    nuff said

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    well this thread took a turn for the weird.

    monorails are very cool, but i'm sure more than a handful have been damaged. i've personally broken 2 high-quality handguards, which is a big part of why i've never done a monorail. the proprietary barrels have always left me cold on the MRP specifically... i imagine it's just the barrel extension, but try finding turned/finished barrels that haven't been ported- good luck. i might have done a VIS at different points, but they were either not available or my money wasn't the couple of times i was gettin a boner for 'em.

    just my reasons/thinkings, though- i wouldnt ever knock anyone for buying LMT, nor any of the mono options. they're nice, just not for everyone.

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    Next time I find my rifle inadequate due to it's inability to swap barrels quickly I'll let all of m4c know.

    Yall don't hold your breath.

    When I was AR shopping, I plunked down a hefty deposit on an MRP. Then I waited, and waited, and waited some more. During that time I got to thinking, when I swap out barrels to turn my rifle from your standard carbine to a tack driver, won't I want a different optic? Bipod? Different stock to balance it all out? Maybe a different trigger? Starting to sound like a new rifle to me. So I went back to the gunstore, used my MRP deposit on a nice, lightweight, simple DDM4v1, and have been glad I didn't get that MRP ever since.
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    What do you want it to do and how much are you willing to spend?

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