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    Quote Originally Posted by TRIDENT82 View Post
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    Keep in mind that I have only debated two items with you....mrps and NF glass.....I have no problem being called a fanboy of those two awesome companies and I do not mind being the "crazy one" for actually loving NF glass and MRPs and calling out hateraid when I see it.

    Also, keep in mind I at no single point in this thread tried to sell or justify the MRP....NOR did I at any time even remotely critique the DD gun.....I just tried to put a muzzle on a few completely boneheaded and unfounded claims about the MRP system.

    No worries brother....stick with that larue stuff and EURO glass if it makes you tingle, more power to you


    Hateraid? I never said either is junk. I think there are better options out there, and your claims to these products are outlandish.

    Im seriously considering buying an LMT MWS so no I do not hate the system. Your opinions on the systems capabilities are stupid, and its quite clear you are simply trying to validate your purchases to yourself. Yes Im proud of the stuff I own but I don't go around making shit up about them or making false claims on other "systems"....especially not to the point my posts are full of emotion, and using call caps (yelling on the net) to try to get my point across.

    You come across like a elementary age kid who just got a new toy, and has to go tell everyone about it. I can't hardly open up a pic thread without seeing your shit all over the place, and you being oh so boastful about your gun. Here and other places. Yeah we all like to show off a new whatever but you're completely over the ****ing top, and now this thread you're completely being disingenuous with your "opinion" AKA justify my purchase and scream at people who don't agree with me. I see Im clearly not the only one who notices it. Ever heard of a clue?

    You're reminding me of that kid that got his WOW account locked, and threw a temper tantrum in his room while trying to shove the remote up his ass.

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    It doesn’t need to come to this gentlemen...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuicideHz View Post
    Here is a question for the OP that will get this back on track:

    What is your budget for rifle and does that include what you have available for all accessories and ammo, including optics?

    I wouldn't spend it ALL on just a rifle. I'd have to have enough money for optics and ammo at the very least, if it were me.

    If you're stretching your budged to $1900 total just because the LMT caught your eye, don't go for it. You'll stretch yourself too thin.

    If you don't care how much you spend on a rifle and $1900 is just what you figured you'd spend because you like the LMT and have another grand sitting around for ammo and optics, then buy the LMT, buy an Eotech or other $500 optic, and a case of ammo and a few mags for now.
    I don't really think that my budget is my deciding factor. I have a few more months out here in the desert and the longer I look and the deeper I look the better deals that I find. I don't think that initially I am going to buy an optic as I figured my wife could buy it for me for Christmas/Birthday. Call me selfish, but hey, I don't have to think of something that I want. It eases explaining why I need a gun AND an optic that costs almost as much as that gun, if not more.

    I don't think that I will utilize the swapping of barrels and the "benefits" that come along with the more expensive gun. Therefore, I don't see a point, fiscally, in spending extra money for something that I don't foresee myself using. I learned the hard way when I was younger that having "the best" isn't always "the best" for me.

    My general usage would be range and target shooting, home defense, some sport shooting, and some tactical training. I will probably only get out to shoot this thing 2-3 times a month. I think that any of the fire arms being discussed will exceed my needs.

    Opticals that I have considered are:
    EO Tech 557.G23FTS W/ magnifier OR
    ACOG TA31DOC W/ Dr. Sight

    I hope that this answers your questions so that you can assist me in getting mine answered. Thanks for your time and your input!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belmont31R View Post
    You're reminding me of that kid that got his WOW account locked, and threw a temper tantrum in his room while trying to shove the remote up his ass.
    have you seen the followup?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVw9D...597&feature=iv

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norinco_Luv View Post
    It doesn’t need to come to this gentlemen...



    Someone needed to say it...might as well be me...I don't think the site needs people having online temper tantrums yelling at people (ALL CAPS) because someone has to justify/defend their purchase, and this isn't the first time he has done it. He did it when I posted about not being 100% happy with a NF scope I bought.

    I wouldn't have said anything but if people go back and read the OP already decided on a gun so there is no longer a real point to this thread anyways. I enjoy reading people's experiences and opinions on certain setups but its over the top ridiculous to have people in near melt down when they get butthurt that not everyone thinks their gun is the best. Trident has posted pics of the same gun in seemingly a dozen threads hoping to get attention to his purchase, and started yelling at people in this thread when someone posted something negative about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh_rob View Post
    I don't really think that my budget is my deciding factor. I have a few more months out here in the desert and the longer I look and the deeper I look the better deals that I find. I don't think that initially I am going to buy an optic as I figured my wife could buy it for me for Christmas/Birthday. Call me selfish, but hey, I don't have to think of something that I want. It eases explaining why I need a gun AND an optic that costs almost as much as that gun, if not more.

    I don't think that I will utilize the swapping of barrels and the "benefits" that come along with the more expensive gun. Therefore, I don't see a point, fiscally, in spending extra money for something that I don't foresee myself using. I learned the hard way when I was younger that having "the best" isn't always "the best" for me.

    My general usage would be range and target shooting, home defense, some sport shooting, and some tactical training. I will probably only get out to shoot this thing 2-3 times a month. I think that any of the fire arms being discussed will exceed my needs.

    Opticals that I have considered are:
    EO Tech 557.G23FTS W/ magnifier OR
    ACOG TA31DOC W/ Dr. Sight

    I hope that this answers your questions so that you can assist me in getting mine answered. Thanks for your time and your input!
    For optics I would also consider one of the aimpoint models with a magnifier. You said this rifle will be used for home defense, to me that means you might need it to be ready NOW at any point you're home. I think that merits a close look at an aimpoint, as you can leave them on continuously.

    I've never used it, but the docter atop an acog seems to bring some issues to the table. Namely height over bore needing to be accounted for at close range and the poor cheek (chin) weld one must utilize to get a clear view through it. If you do go the ACOG route, consider mounting a mini RDS in a 1:00 offset mount.
    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    The M4C Mantra:

    What do you want it to do and how much are you willing to spend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRIDENT82 View Post
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    No worries brother....stick with that larue stuff and EURO glass if it makes you tingle, more power to you
    That is uncalled for! Belmont31R is a real badass IMHO and I take what he has to say seriously. He doesn't give his opinion- when someone asks him "why a 4x TA31F on a 10.5" Mk18 clone and a T-1 on his 16?" he replies not with his opinion, but on his FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE and relays that REAL info to us. I appreciate his useful information that he graciously provides without making jokes, smartass cracks, or making smilies. He's a class act and his info, especially the info I just referred to, was a real eye-opener.

    Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball...

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh_rob View Post
    I don't really think that my budget is my deciding factor. I have a few more months out here in the desert and the longer I look and the deeper I look the better deals that I find. I don't think that initially I am going to buy an optic as I figured my wife could buy it for me for Christmas/Birthday. Call me selfish, but hey, I don't have to think of something that I want. It eases explaining why I need a gun AND an optic that costs almost as much as that gun, if not more.

    I don't think that I will utilize the swapping of barrels and the "benefits" that come along with the more expensive gun. Therefore, I don't see a point, fiscally, in spending extra money for something that I don't foresee myself using. I learned the hard way when I was younger that having "the best" isn't always "the best" for me.

    My general usage would be range and target shooting, home defense, some sport shooting, and some tactical training. I will probably only get out to shoot this thing 2-3 times a month. I think that any of the fire arms being discussed will exceed my needs.

    Opticals that I have considered are:
    EO Tech 557.G23FTS W/ magnifier OR
    ACOG TA31DOC W/ Dr. Sight

    I hope that this answers your questions so that you can assist me in getting mine answered. Thanks for your time and your input!

    I don't think you need a magnified optic inside of 300M unless you are looking at a precision rig.


    Very few people like the mini-RDS on top of the ACOG, and an ACOG will give you tunnel vision and be slower at the distances it sounds like you will be shooting. ACOG's work good in wide open terrain which most ranges and definitely for home defense they are not. You would be handicapping yourself for no good reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belmont31R View Post
    Hateraid? ...
    You're reminding me of that kid that got his WOW account locked, and threw a temper tantrum in his room while trying to shove the remote up his ass.
    Calm down Belmont, you're the bigger man, by far.

    We all know what he has to offer compared to you. I too get sick of seeing the same rifle in the same pics over and over.

    Hmm- Magpul stock- check, Magpul rail covers- check, Magpul this- check, Magpul that- check, no wear or tear or signs of use on the rifle- uncheck.

    I don't need to see product advertisements in pic threads- his pics are nothing no more than what I see in advertisements.

    I think the pic threads are for our unique and different builds, plain and simple. That other crap is uninteresting.

    Sorry, I'm riding the OT train still...

    Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball...

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    Thanks for clarifying- most of this thread is useless now since it came down to DD just for price alone and the fact that you could get it AND an optic for the price of LMT (something I just KNEW would be the case). You didn't come off as having a limited budget.

    So you're not some schmuck either! Thanks for protecting our freedoms and I wish the best for you!

    Now, like I stated, the DD rifle is very nice. If you can SBR, I'd go the route I went and what Belmont has at least one of- an SBR Mk18 Mod 1 clone. I went 12.5" though and cheated but he went 10.5" and can shoot the piss out of that little barrel with his TA31F.

    Fun gun, can be very light if you want or it can handle all of what you'd need on it.

    The 553/PEQ231 that just got is nice. Just got back into Eotechs and I really now realize how much I missed them. The 1/3 MOA dot is excellent at range and even a cheap magnifier will really boost it's performance. My only "issue" at the moment was keeping it on the upper and not RIS II. ARMS mounts on RISII were too tight but I may move it. Right now it's up against my DD rear sight and it's almost in the way. A flip up micro 600 would do the trick nicely but I'm short on cash. I should just move the 553 up onto the RIS II a bit but with the G5, it throws the balance off a bit. Sopmod IS full of batteries btw

    As you see, I'm definitely a fan of DD. They've helped me out for years and I love their products and I'm happy to see them into the full game. They deserve their reputation for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by josh_rob View Post
    I don't really think that my budget is my deciding factor. I have a few more months out here in the desert and the longer I look and the deeper I look the better deals that I find. I don't think that initially I am going to buy an optic as I figured my wife could buy it for me for Christmas/Birthday. Call me selfish, but hey, I don't have to think of something that I want. It eases explaining why I need a gun AND an optic that costs almost as much as that gun, if not more.

    I don't think that I will utilize the swapping of barrels and the "benefits" that come along with the more expensive gun. Therefore, I don't see a point, fiscally, in spending extra money for something that I don't foresee myself using. I learned the hard way when I was younger that having "the best" isn't always "the best" for me.

    My general usage would be range and target shooting, home defense, some sport shooting, and some tactical training. I will probably only get out to shoot this thing 2-3 times a month. I think that any of the fire arms being discussed will exceed my needs.

    Opticals that I have considered are:
    EO Tech 557.G23FTS W/ magnifier OR
    ACOG TA31DOC W/ Dr. Sight

    I hope that this answers your questions so that you can assist me in getting mine answered. Thanks for your time and your input!

    Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball...

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