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    Quote Originally Posted by variablebinary View Post
    I dont think cold hammer forged barrels are what you think they are.
    +1(really hate using that) Will a CHF barrel last longer? Yes/probably/maybe/who the hell knows since nobody has really provided any solid data for me to dissect.

    I understand(to some degree) the metallurgy that says a CHF barrel should last longer, but it really seems like there isn't much hard data that says if it will last an extra one hundred rounds or an extra ten thousand rounds under a similar firing schedule as a traditional button rifled barrel made from steel that meets B-11595E.

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    Two different rifles. One is a top tier DI rifle and the other is a top tier piston rifle.

    It really boils down to whether or not you want a DI or piston, though I guess you could get a DI MRP.

    But being in the military, you know the DI system and know how to take care of it. The piston is a whole new ball game.
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    Out of the two you listed I'd go with the DD. I'm not sold on the whole piston thing for the M-16 platform. I carry a USGI Colt M4 as well and it's been totally reliable with Pmags and minimal maintenance.

    That said, since you're active duty, you qualify for some pretty sweet discounts. I just bought a S&W M&PVTAC from budspolicesupply.com, where you can get an account with a military ID, for $1368 shipped and S&W has a $100 rebate so the whole thing will be around $1288 after paying my FFL guy $20. The VTAC comes with a nice rail, a sweet JP trigger, a Surefire G2 and mount, and some other goodies.

    I think the higher end AR's are all pretty damn good and it's just a matter of deciding what you want. That said, the market is pretty saturated and everyone is trying to come up with something that will sell rifles. In my opinion the piston system falls into that category. The quick change barrel thing is too. But that's just me. If you decide those features are important to you then go for it, the rifles are available. What an awesome country we live in.

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    I have a safe-full of builds from DD and LMT parts. These 2 companies offer you the best value for your money, and from a dealer standpoint as well as a customer standpoint, they have some of the best customer service of any AR manufacturer.

    With the choices the OP listed, I would go with the DD rifles. I am not sold on the advantages of a piston system unless the barrel is under 12", you are going to run it suppressed a lot, or it's a full auto SBR.

    The DI MRP is an awesome set-up if you have the extra coin. All the ones I've seen work great. One trainer I know is on his second barrel with his DI MRP (10.5") with no issues. He'll run the thing for over 6 months just dumping lube in it (slip 2000 or 10W30), then take the barrel out to completly clean out the chamber and chamber extension. Can't do that with any other AR system.

    I would say DD first due to price w/ & w/o a rail, then look at the LMT DI guns. If you have a couple extra $, get the DI MRP.

    Pistons on 16" guns are a waste of money and could end up shortening the life of some components at the cost of minuetly extending some (theoretically).

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    Thumbs up DD

    You can't go wrong with DD, they say satisfaction guarenteed and they mean it!! I have both, and both are DI. I have never even fired a piston so I can't comment on that. Just having delt with both companies, the people at DD are the best!


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    I think another issue is weight. The piston rifles are heavier. That does not matter for informal shooting at the shooting range, but with so many people trying to minimize the weight of their rifle with a thin barrel, small optic,ultralight rail system, etc., it is something to consider. The speed at which you can get on target will be influenced by the weight of your rifle, no matter how strong you are.

    Another point already made is the hammer forged DD barrel. If you are not interested in the difference between hammer forged and button rifled barrels, then no problem. If you are, DD offers hammer forged barrels. (BCM does too, but not in their lightweight barrel).

    Personally I think a piston gun should be designed from the ground up as a piston system, rather than starting with the M16 design and then adapting it to a piston system, in order to maximize the benefits of the piston system while avoiding the potential down sides (such as bolt carrier tilt in some piston systems). Also, I am not keen on proprietary barrels, with the huge number of barrels out there for the AR15. Nor do I foresee switching my gun from one caliber to another. KISS. When I need another caliber I get a different gun. But that's just me.

    The foregoing should be considered my opinion only, and others may have opinions that differ.
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    THANKS!!

    Thanks to you all for your very informative and professional opinions. I had a gut feeling to go with the DD and your insight kind of reaffirmed that for me. The MRP I will look into, however, I don't think that I really have a need for all of the functionality. If I need a different caliber I believe that would be grounds for me to convince my wife that I need another gun.?!

    For the price I found the weapon at I don't think it can be beat. Customer service is HUGE and everyone seems to be very satisfied with the folks at DD.

    Again, thank you very much for your help and I will continue to monitor this posting for a couple months or so and see if anyone else has an opinion as I can not move further in my purchase until I return home from the war zone. Take care.

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    DD for me. Comes with a HF barrel and is $616 cheaper which you can spend on an optic and/or magazines and ammo.
    It's also more versatile in the sense that youre not limited to the 1pc upper and can change rails as you please. Same goes for the proprietary QD barrel. Innovative idea but again, limits your options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col_Crocs View Post
    DD for me. Comes with a HF barrel and is $616 cheaper which you can spend on an optic and/or magazines and ammo.
    It's also more versatile in the sense that youre not limited to the 1pc upper and can change rails as you please. Same goes for the proprietary QD barrel. Innovative idea but again, limits your options.
    REALLY.....

    A DD GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO CHANGE RAILS AS YOU PLEASE

    I am not sure about you, but i never SWAP out my RAILS depending on the MISSION.......Barrels, yes....and LMT/Mike Rock happen to make some of the nicest barrels around(esp. the SS models)

    You should start to research now all the DIFFERENT LENGTHS, CALIBERS, GAS SYSTEMS....and I bet it takes you 30 min. to come up with the MASSIVE list of aftermarket or interchangeable MRP barrels.

    Last thing I am going to say....if you want a solid quality, good gun.....by all means get the DD, however I cannot sit here and read BOGUS SCIENCE and NON ISSUES used to justify not buying IMHO, THE VERY BEST AR PLATFORM IN THE GAME...THE MRP.

    COME ON, are we really debating a traditional nice DD gun..VS. MR. Do it all, and arguable the best at all it does...the MRP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col_Crocs View Post
    DD for me. Comes with a HF barrel and is $616 cheaper which you can spend on an optic and/or magazines and ammo.
    It's also more versatile in the sense that youre not limited to the 1pc upper and can change rails as you please. Same goes for the proprietary QD barrel. Innovative idea but again, limits your options.
    REALLY.....

    A DD GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO CHANGE RAILS AS YOU PLEASE

    I am not sure about you, but i never SWAP out my RAILS depending on the MISSION.......Barrels, yes....and LMT/Mike Rock happen to make some of the nicest barrels around(esp. the SS models)

    You should start to research now all the DIFFERENT LENGTHS, CALIBERS, GAS SYSTEMS....and I bet it takes you 30 min. to come up with the MASSIVE list of aftermarket or interchangeable MRP barrels.

    Last thing I am going to say....if you want a solid quality, good gun.....by all means get the DD, however I cannot sit here and read BOGUS SCIENCE and NON ISSUES used to justify not buying IMHO, THE VERY BEST AR PLATFORM IN THE GAME...THE MRP.

    COME ON, are we really debating a traditional nice DD gun..VS. Mr. Do it all, and arguable the best at all it does...the MRP

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