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    Quote Originally Posted by mkmckinley View Post
    nuff said
    What a witty retort. You should read Trident's posts as he is accurate in what he is saying reguarding the MRP. Unless you or someone else have pictures of bent and broken MRP chassis', you should pay attention to the facts he is stating instead of arguing for the sake of being right. Not saying they are indestructible, but MRPs are at least as strong as the other top tier rails on the market. Some of the posts in this thread are kinda pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texag View Post
    when I swap out barrels to turn my rifle from your standard carbine to a tack driver, won't I want a different optic? Bipod? Different stock to balance it all out? Maybe a different trigger? Starting to sound like a new rifle to me.
    That's exactly the experience I've been having with the Mk17. Don't get me wrong, it's a great gun, but a few different uppers would be a lot better. If I try to swap my mid-length barrel for a shorty or 20" I'm probably going to put a new optic on it, then have to rezero the bastard. I'd be better off with dedicated uppers for each barrel length I want to use. For an AR-15 platform I'd probably be well equipped with a 12.5-14.5' upper with a RDS and a 16-18" upper with an ACOG or 1-4X. No rezero required and a negligible amount of time required to switch the uppers. Also, I'd rather have a dedicated bolt for each barrel which is easily accomplished by having discreet uppers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbofire383 View Post
    What a witty retort. You should read Trident's posts as he is accurate in what he is saying reguarding the MRP. Unless you or someone else have pictures of bent and broken MRP chassis', you should pay attention to the facts he is stating instead of arguing for the sake of being right. Not saying they are indestructible, but MRPs are at least as strong as the other top tier rails on the market. Some of the posts in this thread are kinda pathetic.
    Maybe you should read my post. I never said the issue was with breakage. The issue is with reconfigurability and practical application.

    However since you keep bringing up durability, I will say that I've seen plenty of rails bent and broken. Ive personally broken a KAC and seen a pretty ****ed up DD rail on a Mk 18. When you jump out of planes with your weapon and hump it around at night in different parts of the world shit tends to get banged up. LMT makes a great product. The LMT and other one piece rails are as durable as any but thin pieces of aluminum get busted especially when you start hanging a bunch of IR illuminators, lights, and thermal sights onto them. I'm guessing you don't know much about that, am I right?

    I'm about done with this thread. It's gotten completely off topic and getting in a pissing match with an internet troll who creates a ghost account isn't worth my time. Enjoy your LMT, I'm sure it'll be a hell of a rifle when you're done cleaning your sperm off it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh_rob View Post
    My choices are as follows:
    Daniel Defense M4V3 priced at $1,179.00 OR
    Lewis Machine and Tool CQB Defender 16 Piston priced at $1,795.00
    These are kind of like apple and oranges to me. Both are excellent rifles but you really have to ask yourself if you want a piston or not, prefer the mono rail or intend to swap barrels on a regular basis and then go from there.

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    Wow. I see a lot of guys jumping on the next new hot name in AR15s (not that DD doesn't deserve it, because they ARE top notch. Those guys have taken care of my needs for 6 years and have been great to deal and correspond with).

    I think that sums it up. DD is a hot name now with a great full line of products. That does NOT make the DD rifle better than the LMT and I'm sure anyone at DD would tell you if you want piston, go with the LMT, hands down. They're classy guys and don't BS.

    Guys like Variabliebinary know what they are talking about from experience, not from reading the internet.

    The MRP is a beautiful system and the $1795 price tag is a VERY good deal. They were like $1995 when they arrived. I REALLY wanted on and almost sprung for a 12" GP upper but didn't know if the knob would work with my G5 suppressor.

    If you have the money, get the LMT. You get the $250 stock versus a $60 stock. Well worth it IMHO- awesome stock.

    If all you have money-wise is $1900 or so, get the DD- it will serve you well. Spend the rest on ammo and optics like an Eotech XPS3 from opticsplanet and then go shoot the hell out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkmckinley View Post
    I'm about done with this thread. It's gotten completely off topic and getting in a pissing match with an internet troll who creates a ghost account isn't worth my time. Enjoy your LMT, I'm sure it'll be a hell of a rifle when you're done cleaning your sperm off it.
    Very mature statement. Talk about going off topic.
    This is not a troll account, I'm just a new member. I felt compelled to reply to the BS being spewed in this thread.

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    just buy both

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt86 View Post
    just buy both
    Thats what I did

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    Ill attempt to bring some logic into this thread....



    1. If you break an MRP upper you have to be doing some crazy shit, and I doubt most range warriors would break one unless they are being intentionally hard on the system.

    2. If LMT makes an MRP barrel you are happy with then by happy with the system. To think you are going to run around changing barrels all the time is stupid. Your zero is going to change, etc.

    3. You can carry an extra AR upper in a compact package. Two pins are easier to change than 2 screws. With an AR with the same lower you can literally go from CQB to MK12/DMR in about 10 seconds. Quick change barrels on an AR is kinda stupid.

    4. Mono-upper is a buzzword that has little real world practicality. A good FF tube will hold a NV decive just fine, a PEQ 2/4/15/16, etc just fine. Guess what? Even if there is a miniscule difference in accuracy between a mono AKA MRP upper with a PEQ15 vs. a DD/LaRue FF tube that will easily be negated by combat stress. Shooting on the range is 95% less stressful than being shot at, and being expected to return fire. That 1/4th MOA difference doesnt really mean shit unless you are a range commando denoting minute differences for your log book of truth.




    In closing get the upper OUT OF THE BOX at least 90% to completion. If you want an MRP order it with the barrel you want, and shoot the ****er. I dont really care what anyone uses but the minutiae people go through is mind boggling. Most ****ers can't even shoot to their weapons potential (including me) so arguing about some stupid shit is stupid. If you are shooting at some dumb ****er that broke through your window the 1/4MOA difference doesnt mean shit. If you are shooting at some hadji in Iraq down an alley it doesnt mean shit. If you are shooting at some jihad across a mountain valley it doesnt mean shit.


    You may now go back to your pissing match AKA I need to validate my purchase thread...

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    The MRP is a slightly different animal than your regular off the rack DD AR15.

    Ultimately, you have to buy what makes you happy.

    I'm willing to wager if the OP gets the DD, they might save a couple a bucks short term, but the desire for an MRP will still be there.

    Every time you see the MRP, you'll think, "I should have gotten that". The higher price might sting more at first, but buying right, and what you really want the first time saves you bucks long term

    Purely for the sake of versatility, I'd take the MRP over the DD.

    And like I said, the MRP is BOTH DIRECT GAS AND PISTON DRIVEN. The choice is yours.

    (not my MRP)

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