Former Army officer, West Point&Duke grad shot by police

Originally Posted by irishluck73

These recent incidents, and several more, are all beginning to snowball and becoming a much larger problem when viewed as a whole by the local public. Furtive movement and articulation are starting to sound like CYA and cover up to the general populace.

My reason for stating this is talking to friends & family, interviews on the local news of many citizens and also people calling into radio stations with complaints and speculation.

Sounds like this is becoming wide spread. Is LVPD becoming rogue like NOPD did back in the day where the FBI had to step in, but on a smaller scale? Is it wide spread or just certain areas that have a lack of leadership, gross incompetence, lack of training, a culture of CYA?

LV Metro has a well documented proclivity to shoot first and ask questions later. You don't have to be a master at google-fu to prove my point.

I hear in the LV academy, day one is spent learning how to use the phrase "furtive movement" in a sentence...

Originally Posted by mr_smiles

This the same department that ruled shooting a handcuffed 17 year old in the back was justified.


Edit: Before I get dog piled about a murder suspect being killed, it's not that I don't have sympathy for the family, it was a horrible crime. But it's up to a jury to decide guilt. And at the time of the shooting the suspect didn't pose a danger to anyone, he was handcuffed. No matter what evidence you have against a person, they're still innocent until proven other wise buy either a judge (If the defendant chooses to wave his/her right to a trial by jury) or a jury of their peers.

I brought this up earlier, and one of our LEOs gave legitimate reasons for the shooting. BUT, I seem to remember at the time the issue was that supposedly the officer who shot him made no effort to chase the suspect on foot after he escaped from the patrol car, he stopped him by shooting him in the back.

Originally Posted by JFreuler

I have a sneaky suspicion that we will now see signs at all Costco store entrances.

These signs are irrelevant in many states.

Also if this does take place we should consider organizing a boycott.

Originally Posted by BrianS

These signs are irrelevant in many states.

Also if this does take place we should consider organizing a boycott.

I think informing NRA and GOA and other groups of the policy and encouraging them to fight it would do what you are thinking.

I still have received no answer to my inquiry into Costco about the policy.

I checked the Costco near my house and there is not a sign posted anywhere.

This is what Arizona says in regards to carrying a weapon (signs or no signs).

Arizona law permits private business owners (or their designates) to prohibit weapons from being brought onto their property, whether signs are posted or not. Private businesses are typically non-government operated businesses such as grocery and department stores, convenience stores, laundromats, banks, office complexes, etc. Failure to obey the request can result in your arrest for trespassing. (ARS 13-1502 / ARS 13-1503)

Just realized I know the youngest of the 3 officers involved in the shooting. Sold him a duty holster and some night sights for his Glock last year and gave him some shooting tips for passing the academy quals.

Damn. Nice guy too.

Here is the latest response from the NRA-ILA.

Dear Mr. XXXXX,

Thank you for contacting NRA-ILA. I have forwarded this information to our research department for further review and consideration for our anti-gun list. We appreciate your support.

Best regards,
Miranda B.
NRA-ILA Grassroots Division

Originally Posted by Iraqgunz

Here is the latest response from the NRA-ILA.

Dear Mr. XXXXX,

Thank you for contacting NRA-ILA. I have forwarded this information to our research department for further review and consideration for our anti-gun list. We appreciate your support.

Best regards,
Miranda B.
NRA-ILA Grassroots Division

Once I get a response back from Costco (1 week and counting) I will also forward info to NRA and also to GOA. Hopefully they can put a little publicity out there.

Here's the audio and a new report: http://www.8newsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=12912995

LAS VEGAS -- We are now getting our first listen to what police officers encountered in July's shooting outside a Summerlin Costco. Three officers shot Eric Scott seven times after they say he pulled out a concealed handgun.

Las Vegas police's radio traffic from that day reveal what officers heard minutes before they fatally shot Eric Scott outside the front entrance to Costco.

Over the radio, you can hear the officer make the shot's fired call and then ask for medical units. The officer then says, "He pulled a 413 and pointed it at my direction." That "413" the officer refers to is police code for a firearm.

Listen to Metro's radio traffic from the Costco shooting (Starts at 6:53)

Minutes before, employees at Costco called 911 about Scott. According to the radio recordings, Metro was told Scott was acting erratic and throwing merchandise on the ground.

Metro dispatchers told officers in the field that Scott was possibly on drugs, and may have been suffering from excited delirium. The radio recording shows what officers were hearing about Scott's state of mind.

"He's throwing merchandise around. He's still in aisle 126 in the camping area. Break. Appears fidgety. A female joined the male. She's described as Hispanic, 30's, black long hair, wearing black tank and blue jeans," said the dispatcher.

That woman mentioned by police was Scott's girlfriend, who was there at the Costco.

Scott's family and multiple witnesses say that Scott did not have a gun in his hand as police shot him. Scott was a medical supply salesman and West Point graduate.

The recordings were posted on radioreference.com, a website that records police channels, and later posted on YouTube.

Metro says they have not had a chance to compare these online recordings with their own recordings to see if anything was left out.

Metro also says in a statement,"The tape speaks for itself. It demonstrates the professionalism that police handled the situation."

In a statement, the Scott family attorney, Ross Goodman, said, "Metro will not release the recording of the 911 calls and Costco surveillance video until the inquest which has been indefinitely postponed. Instead, Metro wants to hide behind the veil of secrecy of an ongoing investigation and leak only audio portions of the officers transmissions without all of the officers responses contained in the MDT (Mobile Date Terminal). The family deserves a complete chronology of these events and the public is entitled to it."

The coroner's inquest into the shooting was scheduled for September 3, but has been delayed indefinitely.

I haven't listened to the audio link yet due to watching Avatar with the wifey right now.