Former Army officer, West Point&Duke grad shot by police

Originally Posted by JSantoro

I watch NCIS on occasion, but that's because I like to ogle their pony-tailed forensic chick in between trips to Houston to watch the roller-derby league down there.

Don't hate me because she's beautiful!

yea, well 'tang changes things. that's totally different.

Originally Posted by DragonDoc

I don't know if this has been posted but here is the dispatch traffic for this incident. Pls ignore the header.

http://2aradio.com/shows/2A_Radio_08-12-10.mp3

This mp3 comes from 2A radio and has been edited to remove the dead space.

The radio traffic speaks for itself but the guy providing the commentary is utterly clueless about L.E. terminology and procedures. His bias is clearly evident as he continually states that there was no crime reportedly committed other than "petty larceny" by someone with a holstered firearm. The commentator totally disregards the subject's reported mental state, actions, etc.

The shooting may be justified or not, but the commentator seems to think that the officers, in their manner of response to the incident were predisposed to shooting the guy.

Originally Posted by M4arc

I agree 100% with JW_777. In the end this is going to read like the mishap reports I would read in the Navy. Each individual event, by itself, isn't a big deal but combined them and it spells disaster.

I agree as well.

Originally Posted by popo23dba

The radio traffic speaks for itself but the guy providing the commentary is utterly clueless about L.E. terminology and procedures. His bias is clearly evident as he continually states that there was no crime reportedly committed other than "petty larceny" by someone with a holstered firearm. The commentator totally disregards the subject's reported mental state, actions, etc.

The commentator states that he's prior LVMPD and he seems to have a good handle on the codes that are being used. He also states that "So now they're predisposed to a homicidal maniac." due to the description that's gone over the air which does take into account Erik Scott's mental state and how the police may be initially perceiving him as a threat due to what's gone out over the radio.

As far as his bias goes, in the literal sense what he was stating was correct but I do understand more of the officer's mindset than just simple petty larceny due to the report of a MWAG. However, Nevada has CCW permits and it's legal to OC here and it does not appear that was taken into account.

Obviously the commentator is very critical of Metro's actions but there are many reasons for this. I don't want to write down a list of things that have transpired lately due to it sounding like cop bashing but there are far more controversial deaths on Metro's plate than just this lone incident.

Some areas of Nevada still don't care what the law is in regards to firearms, particularly North Las Vegas.

I can't believe that they are still "investigating" this incident. As crowded as the COSTCO was supposed to have been you'd think that they would have more than enough witnesses who saw what really happened.

The problem is both sides of this issue are doing things that are counter to obtaining the truth. According to the video some witnesses had stated that he "was no threat at all". This type of statement does nothing but dirty up the waters even more. Then there is the "indefinite delay" to the Coroner's process - something that seems to be unusual enough to raise suspicion.

If people would quit making statements, accusations or threats based solely on emotion and limited information; then maybe the truth wil finally be allowed to emerge and justice can be served.

Originally Posted by JSantoro

I watch NCIS on occasion, but that's because I like to ogle their pony-tailed forensic chick in between trips to Houston to watch the roller-derby league down there.

Don't hate me because she's beautiful!

Oh yes; Pauley Perrette is the only reason that I watch that show as well. Man she is hot in a dark demented sort of way.

Originally Posted by CarlosDJackal

I can't believe that they are still "investigating" this incident.

A little more than 30 days out from the event now. This is a complex multi-officer OIS investigation, with tech evidence and multiple witnesses. Not unthinkable, or even unusual, for such a thing to take this long.

I suspect the nuts and bolts have been gathered, now they're just putting them together.

As crowded as the COSTCO was supposed to have been you'd think that they would have more than enough witnesses who saw what really happened.

Having more eye witnesses (and secondary witnesses) is likely to slow the process, not speed it up. Witness statements and testimony can vary widely in quality and reliability between two or more people seeing the same event. "What really happened" is a moving target with even the best ones.

Originally Posted by Skintop911

Having more eye witnesses (and secondary witnesses) is likely to slow the process, not speed it up. Witness statements and testimony can vary widely in quality and reliability between two or more people seeing the same event. "What really happened" is a moving target with even the best ones.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. If you have 30 witnesses, you could feasibly have 3 sets of eyewitness accounts that completely contradict each other. Then you have to figure out which set of ten people to believe.

Whoever's responsible for the automated calls is not being divulged: http://www.lvrj.com/news/group-behin...9.html?ref=019

Police are attempting to contact 120 Costco members who were scanned in during the time period when Erik Scott was killed. http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/24678061/detail.html