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    If a 7 inch rail works for you and your style of shooting, you're fine.
    shooters don't get longer rails for "style" or to be part of the "cool" crowd, they get them because it allows them to use their rifles the way they want to.

    for myself right now it's a 7inch rail, simply because having no income and going to boot camp in 50 days will make a rail purchase rather stupid. I'm 6'3, and I prefer to run my support hand out much further than I can with a 7 inch rail. With a 7 inch rail and fixed FSP/FSB my ideal grip would be past the FSP. Also, using any sort of light or VFG makes the 7 inch rail seem quite small. For me, I think no smaller than 10 inches of rail. YMMY, but don't buy a longer rail if you do not need it.
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    My main AR15 shooter is still a carbine length 6920.
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    I use my BCM/BM M4 w/a KAC rail, panels and VFG ans an AP M3. Shoots like a laser and I feel that changing it is unnecessary, as I use it for a duty gun and I'm a little bit wierd about changing a configuration that works so well for me. especially since it has been through quite a bit w/ me.

    My other M4 is a Mutt/loaner, spare, and is a plain Jane w/ the standard handguards, carry handle and an old school weapons light. Good solid gun that can handle almost anything a put it through.

    So, no, you're not out of sync.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crusader377 View Post
    ....my carbine is even more dated. It consist of a 16" carbine with M4 handguards...
    Get with the times











    Just kidding, I have troy carbine length rails on one of my M4's ironically enough my 10" DD LITE rail seems to weigh half of what it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Perfectly good set up. The AFG fad will come and go as the sheep move on to the next Costa fad.
    That which you call a "fad" is an item that has been developed in response to advancements in shooting techniques. This product allows for better comfort while using a thumb break technique, which inturn minimizes fatigue. While it may not fit everyone, it certainly has been well received by consumers. It is currently being used by MIL and LEO as well as civilian shooters.

    I used it during an EAG course earlier this year and was satisfied with it. I should disclose that my rifle has a 12" FSPM and it allowed me to take full advantage of this style of shooting. On a shorter rail, I would probably go with a VFG.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    the 7.0 is too short for attaching lights, etc. IMHO. I prefer an FSB mount on carbine-length gas systems.
    I agree. Part of the reason why I haven't switched my carbines out for longer rails is because I can't do it with my SBR (for obvious reasons) and I setup my rifles as closely as possible in almost every facet I can (the main differences in my rifles are optics setups). Changing something as little as a light mount means changing it at least five times over for me. A little OCD? Probably, but I want all of the mechanics to mimic each other as much as possible.

    So, while I want to purchase a DD Lite 12" FSP and run a carbine in a rhino configuration, I won't because it'll mess up the lighting configuration.

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    Double tap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TehLlama View Post
    Down the road, we'll have Vietnam Retro AR15's, early 90's retro AR's, and then OIF era retro AR's that use 7" rail systems, M68CCO's or ACOGs, KAC VFG's, and SF Millenium weaponlights.

    I see these as the Toyota Camry's of the AR world - the most simple, reliable, practical setup, but one that gucci-tards will always look down on as uncool.
    I just last week told a friend that we'd see "GWOT" Retro-styled M4 carbines inside 5 years. I think a properly set up 6920/BCM 14.5" Carbine is a great gun, but my main reason for moving away from 7" rails is that midlength gas is practically a free upgrade if you're buying the upper anytime from this year onwards. If I buy from Bravo company, the decision to purchase a 14.5" Midlength at the same price as a 14.5" carbine is easy. Thus the incentive to purchase a new carbine gas system on anything other than an SBR is reduced greatly, and for me longer rails are an byproduct of that.

    My long monkey arms (my wingspan is 6'2") like a forward position of an AFG on a longer rail, but I don't require it, it's just an additional advantage of using midlength gas uppers.

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    Times change, weapons evolve. I don't hear anyone clammoring for the good old days and the Garand and M1 Carbine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tampam4 View Post
    If a 7 inch rail works for you and your style of shooting, you're fine.
    shooters don't get longer rails for "style" or to be part of the "cool" crowd, they get them because it allows them to use their rifles the way they want to.
    I agree. Dont buy it just because everyone has it. Id atleast try to find a way to work with it first. If all else fails then consider a longer rail and/or an AFG.
    I too would prefer more forward grip based on my shooting style but I doubt Id ever switch to a longer rail. Im trying to work around what I have on hand to see if I can get it to work. I run my stock one more position out with my stubby VFG as far forward as I can get it without getting burned while maintaining the ability to activate my light(on the right side) with my middle finger.

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