Any reason to choose an Aimpoint M4/S over a T-1?

[cop1211]

I have (2) 16 inch rifles, and an sbr lower, with a 10.5, and (3) 12.5 inch uppers.

I have 3 M4s, 2 on the 16 inchers, one on a 12.5, the rest have the T1.

You cant go wrong with either, but if I could only take one, I'd go with the M4s due to the larger fov.

[YVK]

M4 - smaller dot and larger aperture. A larger aperture allows less precise head placement. M4 accepts killflash or covers.

I like the M4 better.

This. I've seen people who were far from being inexperienced shooters come out and say honestly that smaller aperture slowed them down in dynamic situation like shooting on the move, changing body positions etc. I've seen people being put in atypical shooting positions and not being able to fire a shot fast enough even with a full sized optic. I caught myself several times squeezing a shot with red dot just inside the edge of my M4s and feeling good that I had an M4s on it, not T1.
I have two of each - M4s and T1 - and I prefer full-sized one. I consider Micro a niche optic best used were M4 is no-go - like Ultimach rail on AK or offset rail with magnified optic. Weight and size advantages of Micro are not sufficient for me to offset an checkweld/head position with full sized optic.

[IPSC_GUY]

M4s absolutely over the Micro. Remember the Micro T-1 and H-1 were meant to be a direct competition with the Mini Red dots like the Doctor optic and the applications that mini red dots were intended for.

When everyone started running them as a primary optic, that is when certain subtle draw backs were noticed. As mentioned above the smaller tube size is sometimes restrictive. Also the larger dot in the smaller optic. I find it easier to aim with the 2 min dot over the 3.5 to 4 min dot in the Micro.

One other aspect seldom discussed is night vision usage at anything over straight 1X, i.e. PVS 14 with the 3x magnifier, both cause a double image, as seen through the PVS 14. With the M4s it can be correct MUCH easier than with the T-1 Micro.

Don't get me wrong I LOVE the idea of a Micro I really do and if they ever make them with a 2MOA dot I will get one. For now the M4S is my fave. Got three of them by the way.

IPSC_GUY
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[Chuck TX]

M4 pros: Smaller MOA, larger FOV, longer battery life, common battery, can use a killflash, can use flip up lens covers, works better with a magnifier IMO, and plenty of great mounting options.

Micro pros: Weighs less, which may make it faster from target to target, and it costs less.

I prefer the M4 as the slightly heavier weight doesn't make enough difference to me. My main reason is hog hunting in brush and senderos. I can run see-thur blizzard flip caps and don't have to worry about scratching the lens all to heck. If I were to build a KISS light as possible AR, however, I'd go with Micro.

[Jay Cunningham]

There's no such thing as a free lunch.

[Crow Hunter]

There's no such thing as a free lunch.

In my on-going perfect optic search I am independently discovering that.

With $ attached....

[Jay Cunningham]

In my on-going perfect optic search I am independently discovering that.

With $ attached....

There is no such thing as "perfect" either.

[Crow Hunter]

Actually Pat Rogers told me: "Any sight is a compromise".

His wisdom is shining through on my experience.

Now I just need to find the compromise that works best for me.

I think I am leaning more towards the under the bed rifle with a red dot/flashling and seperate rifle with a magified optic of some sort for my varmit/ranch gun.

I sure would have liked to find an optic that I could do it all with.

[fnslpmark112]

I think I have the answer for you. It will not be inexpensive. But, it will do what you want.

I have my M4 carbine set up with a TA11 and a T1. I have the T1 on the Larue offset mount.

There is nothing this rifle can't handle. I can hunt with it. I can use it for home defense. It is the best of both worlds.

[LRChops]

I just picked up a Colt LE6940 and am in the process of doing research for setting it up. The rifle will be used as an active field LE tactical rifle. My question is one of co-witnessing with these two styles of Aimpoints. The T-1 seems to sit high enough that the flip up sights would not co-witness, but I don't know. What is the best set up to use with flip up front/rear sights?

More than likely the M4. Aimpoint reps came out to our firing range and beat the hell out of thier product. The rep fired rounds, removed the M4 from the rifle and threw it down range. Did this a few times. re-mounted the sight on the rifle and it was perfectly sight aligned every time. Can't do that with an Eotech!!!!!