S&B Short Dot Models Explained.

[bp7178]

Yep, I talked with the reps at SHOT.

News is NOT good. Price has gone up nearly a thousand dollars, and the targeted release is "maybe second quarter 2012." So that's an increase from 2600 to 3500.

In other news the Horus version of the Leupold CQBSS has actually been dropped down to 3000 dollars and is shipping now.

I'm not gonna lie, the S&B 1-8 was the absolutely BIGGEST disappointment of SHOT SHOW this year for me personally. The CC mode is amazing, but the price actually increasing is an astronomical flub on their part.

I noticed this yesterday, the price went up on SWFA's website to $3500. There was no way they could keep sinking that much development into it and NOT have the price go up.

Even with the professional discount, the price for the Mark 8, the good one, is still above $3k.

That just may be the price of poker with the 1-8s.

[Titleist]

I ordered my S&B 1-8 over a year ago, my price still indicates 2600. I'm wondering if they're going to honor that price.

If so I'll just snag it cheap, and make a profit off it. But it's VERY disappointing.

[bp7178]

I would be amazed if they still honored that price. I doubt there is that much of a markup in price. It's a $900 difference between the preorder and new retail price.

Hopefully, yours sticks at $2600, but until it's ACTUALLY released, who knows.

[Titleist]

I'm inclined to call them on monday and ask if they'll honor it. If not, I'm canceling my order (I think I'm 4th or 5th in the wait for one).

I can not express how bad the exit pupil is on this. I'm bummed.

[Belmont31R]

Not paying 3500 especially after a couple years of delays.

[Titleist]

Not paying 3500 especially after a couple years of delays.

One of the first booths I hit was S&B. They had the 1-8 in two forms, one in black, and one in Tan built on contract for H&K's rifles.

When they gave me the price sheet the folks I was walking the floor joked that they could literally see my spirit break. Maybe 3500 is an effort not to price themselves to the point where no one would want the 1-4 anymore. UGH!

[30 cal slut]

I wonder if there was an across-the-board price increase on their existing PMII line.

[Titleist]

I wonder if there was an across-the-board price increase on their existing PMII line.

There was.

[bp7178]

And the way they have a lock down on dealer prices you bet your ass there won't be any deals going on them outside of mil/le pricing.

I loved all the features of the 1-8x except the exit pupil. 14mm is what I would consider the MINIMUM for 1x to be. 11mm makes it feel a bit cramped, let alone 9mm.

When you saw one at Shot, was it a "production" version or was it still a work in progress?

I think the pricing is a result of development and production capacity. S&B isn't making 20,000 of these a year, its a very small company.

F2S had one of the Premier 1-8s, and he said it didn't make him shoot any better. And really, thats what I wanted the extra magnification for; shooting from the bench making little holes.

[Titleist]

They said this is as close to the final model short of it being boxed and sold over the counter. Again, you're right, they're trying to recoup prices. Leupold has done so, and due to consumer interest realized they'd sell more CQBSSs by pricing them realistically.

S&B has not.