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    Here you go.

    https://policeguns.com/catalog/produ...3ceqn21fem7m15

    If I had seen this before I bought my Noveske, which I love, I probably would have gone with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watrdawg View Post
    OK I just had a deal breaker with my Ruger 556c. I'm taking a class in a couple of months and tried to order a complete BCG. Ruger said no. The only thing I could do is send the rifle back in and they would replace whatever happened to break. I could not order any spare parts for myself. No BCG or piston parts period.

    My only complaint with the rifle before this was the weight. However, not being able to order spare parts, when every other manufacturer will allow this, or even being able to drop in aftermarket BCG's etc is not something I want to contend with. Rifle is on the way out the door.

    Any suggestions? $1500 is my budget. Would like it to come pretty much complete, not basic, so that all I need to do is transfer optics.

    FOr what you want get a Daniel Defense M4 (different rail sizes/caliber variations to choose from) or check out one of the many variations from BCM; you can't go wrong either way.
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    You can score pretty well-accessorized DDs, BCMs, and Spikes guns in that price range, especially if you're not afraid of buying uppers and lowers seperately (why anyone would be is totally beyond me, but there are people who are...)

    Have a look around and see what suits your fancy.

    If you're feeling lazy, you can just give our very own Grant of G&R Tactical a call, he stocks tons of good stuff and is willing to do some of the basic gunsmithish work (i.e. free float rail installation)on his end for a very reasonable fee so that if he doesn't have exactly what you want on hand, he can almost certainly build for you from in-stock parts.

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    Here is a BCM weapon I'm very interested in but I cannot find a price for it.

    http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-R...ifle-s/144.htm

    C-grunt, I've looked at that DD weapon and it's very intriguing also. The only reason I don't hop all over it is that I am leaning toward BUIS for the sights. I'm also looking at the LMT MRP CQB 16. I'm not too enthused about their sights but I can easily swap them out.

    Going to be a tough decision.

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    Here is a BCM weapon I'm very interested in but I cannot find a price for it.
    Here's the upper. click here

    Then you can just buy a quality lower seperate from just about any of the aforemnetioned quality makers and pin 'em together. Saves you about $80 in the process.

    BCM Complete Rifles are pretty rare right now anyway, they literally just started selling them as completes.

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    ETA have Grant build you a custom lower here

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    ChicagoTex looks like I could put together the BCM upper and the DDLower from Grant for about $1250 +/-. I think you may have talked me into opening up my wallet. After taking the loss in my Ruger and then buying BCM/DD weapon I might not come out of pocket too bad.

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    ChicagoTex looks like I could put together the BCM upper and the DDLower from Grant for about $1250 +/-. I think you may have talked me into opening up my wallet. After taking the loss in my Ruger and then buying BCM/DD weapon I might not come out of pocket too bad.
    Always glad to help, with that rig you can't go wrong. Good luck!

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    I ran mine through a VTAC 1.5 Carbine class back in March and it ran like a top. While there were plenty of DI guns that didn't have any problems there were plenty of other guns (piston and DI both) that went down for one reason or another. There was another shooter running an SR556 and he said his ran fine once he lubed it. I'm reminded of that horrible Kurt Russel movie where he says, "Diesels love their oil." Captain Ron, I think it was...

    All told, I had about 4,000 rounds through that 556. I recently sold it and replaced it with a "C" variant. This current gun has close to 2,000 rounds through it and it has also been fine. I should note that both guns can be finicky with WOLF and other steel cased ammo but they run fine with brass.

    The recoil impulse on the Ruger (either variant) is different and does have a more upward push than a DI gun. I have found that the cyclic rate on full-auto is substantially higher in the Ruger as compared to a standard Colt M4 firing the same ammo. The Ruger will finish a mag probably a full second sooner than a comparable Colt. I believe this is due to dwell time within the two different operating systems since the gas in the Ruger starts pushing the transfer rod as soon as it enters the gas block. On the Colt, the gas has to travel all the way back down the gas tube to start the carrier's movement. This is with an "H" buffer in both guns.

    I wonder if this lack of delay increases the lift of the Ruger. I'm guessing the force of the bullet's recoil is a separate event in the DI gun and you're less effected by it and the follow-up movement of the carrier. With the Ruger, the bullet creates recoil and then the carrier adds to this since it starts moving before the first small recoil impulse passes. In essence, you've got two forces at once instead of one and then the other. Or it could be nothing other than the increased mass of the operating parts.

    I wonder how a Battle Comp would work on the Ruger? Too bad my 556C has an integral flash hider. While the fluting on the barrel was a good improvement, they should have stuck with a conventionally threaded barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watrdawg View Post
    OK I just had a deal breaker with my Ruger 556c. I'm taking a class in a couple of months and tried to order a complete BCG. Ruger said no. The only thing I could do is send the rifle back in and they would replace whatever happened to break. I could not order any spare parts for myself. No BCG or piston parts period.
    That's definitely a deal breaker - they use proprietary parts, then don't let you order spares? Pure horseshit...

    I got some hands-on time with one at a local range late last year. Muzzle-heavy without a doubt. While the recoil impulse was different, one could get used to it. The owner of said rifle claimed to have ~1k rds thru it w/o cleaning the gas system - said it was running flawlessly. I only put one mag thru it (Fiocchi ammo), but had no problems. Interesting, but not enough to make me give up my traditional DI ARs.

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