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    I agree with Shivan to a point. "Tacticool" in particular is starting to grate on me even more then "milspec" but not quite to the point of "flawless".

    If you really must define "Gucci Gear" I think it's more about application than the product itself. An HK416 with an Aimpoint, magnifier, and laser is Gucci Gear to the majority of civilian owners because it sits in the safe and doesn't do much else. The same gun is far from Gucci Gear in the hands of some Delta guy crawling around a mountain somewhere and using it to peg smelly guys in man dresses.

    Fitting your gun, and your gear, to your application means the term will never apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    Fitting your gun, and your gear, to your application means the term will never apply.
    Of course it will never apply to your own stuff, because people are narcissistic and believe their choices are perfect.

    People attempt to apply these terms to other people's stuff, and honestly, they are in no position to judge what you or I, or anyone else, including a recreational AR shooter, has on their gun.

    When asked the purpose of a white light on my AR, "I have it there because it makes me smile." What can anyone say to that?

    That's stupid? That's tacticool? That's so Gucci? They can FOAD.



    I don't care about his IR laser or the EoTech. I think the thing that makes his gun "Gucci Gear" is that camo paint job and the KAC BUIS.

    Why can't he just use a black gun and YHM like the rest of us?
    Last edited by SHIVAN; 07-28-10 at 11:25.
    "I'm not saying I invented the turtleneck. But I was the first person to realize its potential as a tactical garment. The tactical turtleneck! The... tactleneck! - Sterling Archer"
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    than one's fear. The timid presume it is lack of fear that allows the brave to act when the timid do not."

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    Except that's not really how these things typically go. More typical is the guy posts a vanity pic on the internut and either directly asks for opinions, states that this is now the uber-gun, or at the very least invites opinions simply by posting the pic. Then when queried it comes to light that he's never shot it, or has a few hundred rounds through it, has no idea how to use it, and only bought it because he saw it on COD4.

    Or someone asks "why do you have a xyz123 on there" and the OP goes bananas saying "FOAD" when the question was asked in an attempt to learn something. I see people doing weird shit with their guns all the time and always ask why. More often than not they have no idea why and their head explodes, but sometimes they have a damn good reason and I learn something. I couldn't care less if someone gets upset because they have no idea why they did something, and I'll keep asking those questions because of the rare case when something valuable comes out of it.

    There is a big difference IMHO between someone marching up to a shooter at a pubic range and saying "your AR is stupid" and posters offering opinions on a gun voluntarily posted on a discussion forum. The latter should understand that by posting the picture they've opened themselves up for commentary, and with that comes people making judgment calls. Once someone has asked for opinions, even passively, all best are off IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac5.56 View Post
    I have walked into Gucci/Versache/Bergdorff and looked at suits, tried them on, handled them. They are still just a suit in the long run though, and threads tear, shit shrinks, and life goes on.

    Comparing a machine to something that is designed purely for aesthetics is not a comparison at all.
    Getting off the subject, but these brands are not always " purely for aesthetics". Sure, they look nice, but many of these brands are also functional and well made. That's how they gained their present loyalty and brand recognition. You can use a LV bag and wear a good (Gucci) suit for many many years. Try that with a knock-off. There is a reason why it's expensive.

    It's a difference between well made (and qa'ed) BCG and off brand one. Sure...BCG is a BCG. It'll work the same for a while, but is the BCG going to shoot loose after 3k rounds, because it's not properly staked ?

    2 things being exactly the same and YOU not knowing the difference is a completely different issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    Except that's not really how these things typically go. More typical is the guy posts a vanity pic on the internut and either directly asks for opinions, states that this is now the uber-gun, or at the very least invites opinions simply by posting the pic. Then when queried it comes to light that he's never shot it, or has a few hundred rounds through it, has no idea how to use it, and only bought it because he saw it on COD4.

    Or someone asks "why do you have a xyz123 on there" and the OP goes bananas saying "FOAD" when the question was asked in an attempt to learn something. I see people doing weird shit with their guns all the time and always ask why. More often than not they have no idea why and their head explodes, but sometimes they have a damn good reason and I learn something. I couldn't care less if someone gets upset because they have no idea why they did something, and I'll keep asking those questions because of the rare case when something valuable comes out of it.

    There is a big difference IMHO between someone marching up to a shooter at a pubic range and saying "your AR is stupid" and posters offering opinions on a gun voluntarily posted on a discussion forum. The latter should understand that by posting the picture they've opened themselves up for commentary, and with that comes people making judgment calls. Once someone has asked for opinions, even passively, all best are off IMHO.
    So what? Talk about your gear and what works for you in an articulate and positive manner. People should stop using the vocabulary crutch buzzword of the month to look all cool and shit on the internet.

    If XYZ accessory doesn't belong, and the guy's gun has it, and he wants an opinion: Tell him why the excess weight, or it's usage is probably not in line with the intended purpose of that accessory.


    I dig the guys who shoot their A1 ironed like shit but want to call me and my Aimpoint, tacticool or Gucci. Yeah, got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    There is a big difference IMHO between someone marching up to a shooter at a pubic range and saying "your AR is stupid."
    I think this is important for folks to read. I recently posted a pic of something and someone basically said it looked bad. I have to wonder if I was standing in front of them (with item in hand) if they would have opened their pie hole??? Most likely not.

    Before people make a comment on someones gear, appearance or whatever, they should REALLY consider if they would stand eye ball to eye ball and say it. If they wouldn't, then they should learn to keep their fingers off the keyboard.



    C4

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVAN View Post
    So what? Talk about your gear and what works for you in an articulate and positive manner. People should stop using the vocabulary crutch buzzword of the month to look all cool and shit on the internet.
    I don't disagree. Simply pointing out that, whether the term is "crutch" or "buzz", the person it's applied to pretty generally earns it regardless, and complaining about it being applied when someone opens up the door themselves to begin with doesn't make any sense.

    BTW, taking an "I'm so much better than the internet" is kind of the latest buzzword of the month.

    If you show up to a party in a pink tutu and ask the group "what do you think?" you can't exactly complain when they all call you a fag.

    (BTW, I think you're taking this all way more seriously than I am. I'm just having fun with a stupid topic. No reason to get bent out of shape about it either way, it's all in good fun on my end.)

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    Les Baer or Wilson maybe.

    With the others mentioned you actually get what you pay for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    I think this is important for folks to read. I recently posted a pic of something and someone basically said it looked bad. I have to wonder if I was standing in front of them (with item in hand) if they would have opened their pie hole??? Most likely not.

    Before people make a comment on someones gear, appearance or whatever, they should REALLY consider if they would stand eye ball to eye ball and say it. If they wouldn't, then they should learn to keep their fingers off the keyboard.



    C4
    Yes but, the flipside was actually my argument which is that by posting on the internet you have to expect to open yourself up to that. I am reminded of that constantly when I encounter an issue here and am told that I made myself an internet personality and therefore deserve what I get.

    If people don't want comment, criticism, complaint, derision, or ridicule then the way to avoid that is to avoid posting, and especially avoid posting pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    Yes but, the flipside was actually my argument which is that by posting on the internet you have to expect to open yourself up to that. I am reminded of that constantly when I encounter an issue here and am told that I made myself an internet personality and therefore deserve what I get.

    If people don't want comment, criticism, complaint, derision, or ridicule then the way to avoid that is to avoid posting, and especially avoid posting pictures.
    I think you are right, but want people to actually take a second and think if they would say what they are going to say to that person's face. Nine times out of 10, the answer would be no.

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