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Thread: Is the DEA still buying Rock River carbines?

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    Is the DEA still buying Rock River carbines?

    I was just curious because have heard that they stopped buying RRA and I wanted to confirm.
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    I saw an article about the LWRC junk they bought for Afghan operations....

    Not sure if they're still buying RRA stuff.

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    Not sure, but I recall reading somewhere that RRA won some deal with ICE
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    I guess the DEA/ICE just loves buying junk from whoever they can get it from!
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    Question

    Any quantifiable evidence that either company's products they sold/sell to the US Gov't is "junk"?

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    "Not sure, but I recall reading somewhere that RRA won some deal with ICE "

    Not true.

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    Yes. There were many reports that agents in the field did not like the RRA carbines.

    The DEA team that was working with the SF team where I was in A'stan was using LWRC stuff. They had some serious reservations about the REPR that one of the guys was using. Several issues with the magazine/feeding.

    The 5.56 guns were pretty decent- according to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    Any quantifiable evidence that either company's products they sold/sell to the US Gov't is "junk"?
    Yes. My department purchased (25) RRA 16" middy carbines for our gang unit directly from RRA. Out of the (25) rifles delivered, (10) of them were non-functional due to a bad batch of FCG's.

    Out of ALL of the major commercial market AR manufacturers, I have personally seen more issues relating directly to poor QC with RRA than any other manufacturer. Un-staked/un-secured bolt carrier keys that were rattle-trap loose straight out of the box. Their liberal use of red lock-tite on just about every part on the AR platform you can think of that should not have it applied to it. Their Dremel-tool "extended feed-ramp" jobs that look like they were done by a chimp. (Seriously, WTF is the purpose of them Dremel-ing feed-ramps into a standard rifle upper receiver???) I recently came across one of the PD rifles we bought that had a Vortex FH that would not come off after being soaked in Kroil for two days, heated up with a torch, and had 80ft/lbs of torque applied to it to try to remove it.

    That's about all that I have personally seen....

    ETA: I have no personal negative experience relating to LWRCi products.
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    LWRCi products are great. I've owned some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Yes. There were many reports that agents in the field did not like the RRA carbines.

    The DEA team that was working with the SF team where I was in A'stan was using LWRC stuff. They had some serious reservations about the REPR that one of the guys was using. Several issues with the magazine/feeding.

    The 5.56 guns were pretty decent- according to them.
    I have also had DEA agents using LWRC over here, the guys that i talked to are very happy with their M4's. now the reaper is another story, but their M4's they say that they love them. one of the guys had just bought one last time he was home because he liked his so much.
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