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    So the ole ATF stopped by....

    I guess I've bought too many guns, and came up on someones list. They were satisfied I was not dealing without a license, gun trafficking, etc. No I didn't let them, and they sat on the porch sweating...



    The lead guy made several comments about how they don't keep records yet he had a ton of my 4473's, my military records, pictures of my relatives, printed out list of guns Ive bought, NFA and who knows what else.


    Didn't like the fact I didn't have a bill of sale for the few guns Ive sold FTF. Said I need to keep records, and I told him I wasn't required by law to do so. He said he can type up a "cease and desist" letter, give it to someone, and it means they cannot sell any guns. Not as a threat to me but he said they often go to people's houses, and they can't show them any guns even though they've purchased several a month.


    They were pretty nice, though, and part of the increased effort to keep guns out of Mexico. Id heard the ATF was "flooding" Texas so I guess it was my turn. Towards the end we were talking about areas to go shooting around here, and they said it was good I was a gun owner. They had come here when we were on vacation, and quipped about Fox News being on the TV...lol


    Anyways not what I want to wake up to after 4 hours of sleep but it went pretty well, and everything is on the up and up....lol

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    I am sure they doing a legit job for a legit problem, and pardon me while I look for some tin foil, but that is scary. They have no records... Hah!!! I know'd it, I know'd it, I know'd it.

    Gullibility machine, please insert dollar here.
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    whoa...
    so if you dont mind me asking, in what range of quantity are we talking about on your end.
    Matthew 10:28

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadmin View Post
    whoa...
    so if you dont mind me asking, in what range of quantity are we talking about on your end.
    +1. How many guns did you buy and, more importantly, how many did you sell and how did they know you sold them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyyr View Post
    +1. how did they know you sold them?
    They was a purchase record to him, but were missing from inventory im guessing
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    Quote Originally Posted by sadmin View Post
    whoa...
    so if you dont mind me asking, in what range of quantity are we talking about on your end.



    Less than 20....


    He even asked me if it was my writing on the 4473. They had a mix of 4473's, and some sort of printed off spread sheet with guns Ive bought. I showed them what I have, and he was checking them off on his list along with the 4473's. The few Ive sold I told him where they went. A couple FTF sales, a couple traded in, and a few sent to FFL's. I told him I had the FedEx documents for the ones I shipped since I usually scan them, and send them to the buyer. I also mentioned I always use "their" FFL EZ check to make sure the FFL is legit Im sending it to. He seemed pleased with that.


    FWIW all my purchases have been spread out over time, and location. The only guns they didn't have a record for were guns I purchased FTF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyyr View Post
    +1. How many guns did you buy and, more importantly, how many did you sell and how did they know you sold them?


    They didn't know I sold any of them. The ones they had a record for but didn't have I either sold or traded in.




    What Im guessing they are doing is collecting 4473's, and then creating a list to each buyer. Im not sure if there is a magical number of purchases one has to meet to get this type of visit but I guess I caught their attention somehow.
    Last edited by Belmont31R; 08-12-10 at 12:34.

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    When we do nothing wrong we have nothing to fear... I am sure the sphincter tightened a little at first but it sounds like it went well in the end and that they acted professional and treated you as they should have.

    I'm surprised I haven't been visited yet... Maybe because I am in Pa and don't have any NFA stuff. YET!

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    glad it worked out ok bro...dad is really diggin the 22
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    Quote Originally Posted by d90king View Post
    When we do nothing wrong we have nothing to fear...
    That's not how this country is supposed to work. I will save the political tirade for later. Until next time...be afraid.
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