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    "Blackwater - The Rise..."

    I'm halfway through the book. I recognize that it's told from a Michael Moore perspective but it's actually having the opposite affect on me. Private military contractors are something that I've been ignorant of but accept the need for them. It's giving me a greater respect for those people that do this work and the need for these types. If you haven't seen the book, check it out.
    "Most standards are set low to accomodate the bottom feeders of life who lack the personal pride, motivation and determination to rise above the rest." - Paul Howe

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    I looked at that one, but when I read the blurb on the back about Eric Prince's "ties to the radical Christian right", that told me pretty much all I needed to know about the perspective. I decided to get "Licensed to Kill" instead. I still want to read the BW book, but I'll just borrow it, or get it at the used book store.

    The Lefties on the liberal blogs I sometimes post on have delusions of a miltarized Christian army converting everyone at gunpoint and generally being uncultured while they're doing it. Maybe they will at least learn something about guns when they read it.
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    I just finished watching "Shadow Company" it's a documentary that shows the good, bad, and the ugly part of "Private Military Companies"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker5 View Post
    The Lefties on the liberal blogs I sometimes post on have delusions of a miltarized Christian army converting everyone at gunpoint...
    Didn't JC say," Go into all the world and MAKE disciples?"

    How we "make" them is up to us, heh?

    Christian army? As if... Most I have met wouldn't touch a gun...

    As for the book, does it accurately document the rise of Blackwater? I have always viewed the rise of that training and outfitting company a HUGE SUCCESS and would like to see the steps leading up to the huge organization they are now... A true American success story... but TIMING and VISION had more to do with it than anything else, I suspect...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rmplstlskn View Post
    Didn't JC say," Go into all the world and MAKE disciples?"

    How we "make" them is up to us, heh?

    Christian army? As if... Most I have met wouldn't touch a gun...

    As for the book, does it accurately document the rise of Blackwater? I have always viewed the rise of that training and outfitting company a HUGE SUCCESS and would like to see the steps leading up to the huge organization they are now... A true American success story... but TIMING and VISION had more to do with it than anything else, I suspect...

    Rmpl

    Agree. Most Christians are pacifists in that they believe that God will protect them from all Evil. God expects you to defend his holy temple (your body) and the lives of your loved ones.

    Muslims have legions of people ready to kill anyone that stands in their way of world domination. Liberals don't seem concerned by this. They are however concerned about a small group of men that are Christian and pro gun.


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    Shadow Company has some good interviews and some RTFO ones -- poorly setup and a lot of inaccuracies.

    Part of the problem with our (corporate and individual) image, is despite we protect US DOS, DOD, USAID, NGO's etc - is that many companies, clients, and our contracts forbid us talking to the press -- so we can be slandered in public and are not able to defend ourselves.


    *and now for some Eurobashing
    The worst part is we take in the neck from a lot of countries that don't even have a stake in the GWOT, well they do as Western Christian nations but have chosen to abdicate that responsibility, and criticise those that have accepted the responsibility.

    In the beginning a lot of clowns got into the industry, a lot of these where more or less pushed out, but there are still a few rotten apples that give us all a bad rep. Others that like to play thenselves up, and badmouth teammates or others later on in books etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Muslims have legions of people ready to kill anyone that stands in their way of world domination. Liberals don't seem concerned by this. They are however concerned about a small group of men that are Christian and pro gun.
    But....but.....but.....a bunch of fundamentalist Christians with guns are going to take over and make a theocracy just like the fundamentalist Christians with guns did in 1776-1789, right???

    I mean, if it hadn't been for all the Hillary Clinton/ACLU types in Philadelphia during the Constitutional Convention we would have ended up with a theocracy!

    ....and they accuse Christian conservatives of historical revisionism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker5 View Post
    I looked at that one, but when I read the blurb on the back about Eric Prince's "ties to the radical Christian right", that told me pretty much all I needed to know about the perspective.
    I thought the same thing after the first chapter. I ended up reading the entire book. It took me awhile because I could only take so much BS at one time.

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    In the first 3 chapters, the author outlines Prince's support for Christian beliefs and that he's in fact Roman Catholic. How he believes in the importance of family and being a good father. Also how we need to be outspoken and protect our Christian beliefs or we will find that, as he puts it, "Muslim, will be the only game in town". His definition of multiculturalism is very accurate: "...to affirm every other culture but our own." Being a Canadian, born in the Philippines, I have watched how our country has continued to do this and it sickens me. Reading the book, I understand the need to go down certain paths that others with less commitment would heed to travel. One thing that I found interesting is the training that was provided to law enforcement shortly after the Columbine massacre. It's changed the way law enforcement attacks that problem. Our society appears apologetic when we embrace those things that fight the evils in the world. It goes back to the "sheep, the wolves and the sheepdog" concept. We need more sheepdogs in this world!
    "Most standards are set low to accomodate the bottom feeders of life who lack the personal pride, motivation and determination to rise above the rest." - Paul Howe

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    Liberals who don't like private military organizations should try actually reading the US Constitution rather than let the ACLU spoon feed it to them. Congress can authorize their use.

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