"Blackwater - The Rise..."

[Mojo58]

The way I see it, most Christians have forgotten that they also have a responsibility to society. Indifference permeates society. "I don't want to get involved" has become so common it's no wonder we choose to have municipal, state and federal governments police our every move and decision. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the principle behind Christianity the intent of doing what we believe is the "right thing to do"? I know this has all been said many times before but "ignorance" and "indifference" appears to be prevalent in much of today's anti-gun rhetoric.

[Striker5]

My wife says the exact same thing. She thinks that if churches did their job, there would never have been a need for welfare. Liberalism, in many ways, is Christianity with God and eternity removed. Most of the great civic changes in Western history (the end of slavery, care for the poor) were Christian causes.
But we have ceded this territory to the Lefties and their self-aggrandizing power trip.

[John_Wayne777]

My wife says the exact same thing. She thinks that if churches did their job, there would never have been a need for welfare. Liberalism, in many ways, is Christianity with God and eternity FIX: And all those nastily inconvenient parts about personal accountability, responsibility, freedom, and basic morality removed.

Fixed it.

[Striker5]

No argument here.

I read a good blurb from the guy that wrote "100 people that are screwing up America"(?) that in Lefty-land it doesn't matter what your PERSONAL ethics are -you can lie steal, abandon your family etc BUT as long as you subscribe to lefty principles you are a "good" person.

[CM-4]

I know that there are a few christian denominations that are pacifists (spelling ). However the vast majority that I know are very far from it. As a matter of fact the bible speaks plainly of defending yourself and inocent people. Many people try to say that Jesus was a pacifist, this is not true. Jesus was angry at the traders in the church and even picked up a weapon. Many of the disciples carried weapons on them (swords and knives). When the Roman soldiers came to get Jesus, Peter actually cut off the ear of one with his knife. Jesus told him to put it away and healed the soldier's ear. When Jesus spoke to the Roman soldiers, he never told them that being a soldier was wrong. And if you read the Old Testiment, well there are all kinds of examples. I am glad for the religious right, because if it were not for them we would have had a liberal in the white house far more often than we have and most are very pro gun. Some may not be as active in guns as I am, but they support my right to own EBR.

Many of the people I shoot with go to my church, and some who have the money own machine guns. One guy that I shoot with even owns a tank with a working 20mm anti tank gun mounted on it. I go to a Baptist church and last Sunday I wore my ankle gun (as I normally do) and after service, my dad and I went to this other guys car to look at the new machine gun he had bought and just got his paper work back on. It was a Bridgeport Thompson. BTW if you read Revelation and other end time scripture, you will se that God is no pacifist.

I think I might get a T-shirt printed up that says "America was founded by Religious nuts with Guns."

[CM-4]

Fixed it.

I agree. I hate it when I hear a Christian who has conservative views but votes for some liberal Democrat because of the economy or because they are pro union. Christians and the church need to wake up and vote beliefs not who the union hall is endorsing.

[DocHolliday01]

I thought the same thing after the first chapter. I ended up reading the entire book. It took me awhile because I could only take so much BS at one time.

Amen, that first chapter almost made me not want to read it. It is very apparent to me that the author is Liberal, or at least not a conservative, i want to read a book about Blackwater not about how the auther wanted to point out that Erik Prince has never given money to the Democratic party . It would be a much better book if the story was told by someone much less biased to the liberal side of things.

[Mojo58]

I think that's what's causing me to see it from Prince's side. Scahill is so obvious that I'm reading past his biases. And the later chapters lead me to believe that much of his research is from books that he's read (eg. Licensed To Kill). Reminds me of how statisticians work .

[Striker5]

I just finished "See No Evil" and am starting "License to Kill" now. After watching "Syriana" I was expecting Baer to be some sort of Lefty whiner. Not true as he spends the last quarter of the book attacking the Clinton administration.

Syriana would have been a hoot if it showed that all the big oil corruption was happening on Clinton's watch but Clooney probably wouldn't have produced it.

I already like the tone of "Liscense to Kill". It's good investigative journalism. I don't need commie rhetoric or red-blooded flag waving (there's some book I saw called "A Bloody Business" that is basically a commercial for PMC's to include the contact info for the different companies and lots of cool war photos) - just the facts ma'am.

[Joseywales]

I'm halfway through the book. I recognize that it's told from a Michael Moore perspective but it's actually having the opposite affect on me. Private military contractors are something that I've been ignorant of but accept the need for them. It's giving me a greater respect for those people that do this work and the need for these types. If you haven't seen the book, check it out.

I refuse to give Michael Moore one penny of my money. I had respect for mercs/"private contractors" for a long time. No Steven Segal or Michael Moore propaganda will ever change that.