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    Question Buidling my first AR..... help!

    Hey all..... let me first start by saying that before joining m4carbine.net I knew almost nothing about the ar-15 platform and how it functioned..... I've been checking out alot of threads the past couple of days and now I want to build my own rifle by the end of 2011 (money is tight) it will actually be my first "tactical" style rifle...... but I'd like something higher grade.

    The base knowledge threads were a great help in learning what to look for in a quality weapon, and I thank all who were involved in the assembly of those threads.

    I was looking at Noveske rifles, Daniel Defense, and Lewis Machine & Tool, all of which seem to hold very solid reputations here on the forums. Noveske is too expensive, and I'm not sure if I'd like to go with a piston system, and I think I'd like to have something just a tad heavier than an M4 profile barrel...... I'd like to try to stay below the $2500 for just the rifle and some BUIS.... optics aren't in the picture yet.

    I was thinking of putting a 16" Noveske SS upper on an LMT Defender lower, then adding Troy BUIS to the setup. I'd put a Daniel Defense rail on it if I chose not to go with the Vltor monolithic upper offered by Noveske........ which seems like a very durable upper.

    Any thoughts on this idea or recommendations on how to make it better?

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    For $2500 you can pretty much just go buy the very very best of everything you like and build it. Thats a lot of money for just the rifle and buis.

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    you can get a Noveske Basic for $1450 and it comes with a Troy BUIS. http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin...since=&status= its a light barrel but its a Hbar. or the upper for $850. You can get a Noveske Lower for $159 http://www.ddsranch.com/cart/index.p...roducts_id=609 and a very nice Lower parts kit w/ Geissele SSA trigger for $199 http://palmettostatearmory.com/lower-parts-kits.php
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    If durability (longevity) is your goal then I'm not sure a stainless steel barrel is the best direction. 10,000 rounds represents a typical accuracy lifespan for many ss barrels. I like the Noveske double-thickness chrome-lined M249-spec barrels - arguably the best combination of accuracy and durability.

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    I think I would go with the M249 profile barrelled upper as well. Or a complete gun if you can get it. Get a decent light and sling and you will be good.

    Of course we will also need mags and ammo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    If durability (longevity) is your goal then I'm not sure a stainless steel barrel is the best direction. 10,000 rounds represents a typical accuracy lifespan for many ss barrels. I like the Noveske double-thickness chrome-lined M249-spec barrels - arguably the best combination of accuracy and durability.



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    You can buy an awesome rifle for less much less than $2500. You could probably buy two. My last LMT was about $1,100 it came with a single 30 round LMT magazine, GI sling and LMT rear sight.
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    just get Bravo Company, you can get a great build (rails, non stock furniture) for $1500+. Very high quality and service. With an red dot or holographic sight, around $2000

    will this be for defense or any classes?
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    Thanks for the input on the stainless steel barrels. I'm leaning more toward the M249 steel light profile now. This will probably be my only ar-15 for a while.... so I'd like to get top quality, durability, and accuracy right off the bat.

    The Bravo Company USA rifles are interesting... I'll definately look closer into them..... but if I were to purchase a complete Noveske rifle..... is the Geissele trigger upgrade worth the money? Does anyone know about how comfortable the Vltor monolithic uppers are to handle, like about how slim they are? I'd really have no need for a switchblock...

    Side note.... kind of unrelated...... but would the pinned and welded flash hider on their 14.5" models exempt the rifle from the SBR classification?

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    Yes permanently attaching the correct flash hider or brake will get you to about 16.1" and you will not need to SBR your gun.
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    for your given budget of $2500 for the rifle only you could probably take a look at the kac sr-15. Theres a thread on them here that has alot of great info on it.

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