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Thread: Buidling my first AR..... help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    I am not knocking the Geissele. My point being that myself (and others) can shoot good with stock triggers. My Noveske 16.1" Recon is topped with a Leupold 2.5x8 MR/T and using Prvi Partizan match ammo I shooting 1 MOA using a stock trigger.

    Since I am not using it for SMD/DMR work I think that is more than acceptable. If I was using it for precision then I would surely purchase a Geissele. I think that the OP would be better served in using that money for ammo, mags, sling, light, etc... first. YMMV.
    I never even came close to implying that you were knocking the Geissele trigger. I even agreed with you that he shouldn't upgrade right off the bat - should shoot the stock trigger and "upgrade later if desired".

    My only point was that if he wants to spend his money on a trigger upgrade, it makes more sense to buy it later rather than now. He'll get a better deal, and may find that the stock trigger is just fine and he won't need to upgrade at all.
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    For that kind of money, why not also consider a KAC SR-15? Pretty much all the OP would have to do is change the grip. add a light and sling and he'd be GTG. If he doesn't care for the SOPMOD stock he can always sell it and put on a Magpul or Vltor. The money he'd make from the sale would probably be more than whatever stock he would replace it with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usmcvet View Post
    The stock trigger is less money an said to be more robust.
    My SSA looks alot more robist then the stock trigger. The stock triggers dont fail tho.

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    Pay close attention to what Iraqgunz is telling you and take a serious look at the BCM offerings. They are the best deal going for a rifle that is as close to mil spec as you're going to find from somebody without a .mil contract. I keep telling myself that I"m going to get a KAC sr-15, but when I shell out the cash, it's almost always a BCM box that shows up at my door. I've got more BCM hats than heads in my household now

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    Standard triggers are OK as long as you get a decent one, and they are not all decent. Ive kept a couple LMT trigger groups in a couple lowers but other ones Ive gotten go in the parts bin as spares. They were really up in the 8-10lb range, and it would be difficult to shoot decent groups with them. Doesn't so much matter if you aren't into shooting groups, and are just punching paper at 100 yards and closer.


    Having SSA's in 5-6 lowers now I can appreciate how consistent they are. If I had all standard triggers I could get behind one, and have a 6lb pull. Go to another gun, it feels different, and is in the 10lb range.


    Ive only ever heard of 1 or 2 SSA's having trouble, and I know I have many thousands of rounds down range with them without a single issue. I also have a DMR in my MK12, and it hasn't skipped a beat. Only ~1200rds through that one but the SSA's have a lot more than that. The reliability concerns most people have are because people started putting competition triggers in their guns, and they are really not beefy enough to take the abuse in a combat gun. Some are made poorly, too, and people started breaking them. The SSA is designed from the ground up as a combat trigger, and designed to take the abuse. Its not the best feeling 2 stage out there but they are reliable from my own experience, and everything Ive seen since they have come out. I was hesitant at first because of all the negatives Id read about 2 stages in general, and how many people were popping up with broken triggers. After about a year of following the SSA I bought one, and slowly but surely they have found their way into all but 3 lowers now. Id replace those 2 LMT's, too, but they don't get used so theres no point, yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spamsammich View Post
    Pay close attention to what Iraqgunz is telling you and take a serious look at the BCM offerings. They are the best deal going for a rifle that is as close to mil spec as you're going to find from somebody without a .mil contract. I keep telling myself that I"m going to get a KAC sr-15, but when I shell out the cash, it's almost always a BCM box that shows up at my door. I've got more BCM hats than heads in my household now

    If you add up the cost of the SR15 part by part its really in the same ball park price as a BCM rifle. I love BCM products as much as anyone but the SR is actually very competitively priced when you add things up. Not too mention the lower has features no other lower has, and the barrel extension/bolt is a stronger design than the standard bolt design BCM uses.

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