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Thread: CQBRs and Bipods.

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    FWIW and as far as I know there is no Gen III Spectre DR;rather, Gen II Rev A and Gen II Rev B models. I have a Gen II Rev A which was a SOCOM overrun and I believe 99MHC4's Spectre is a SOCOM Gen II Rev B.

    There is a decent post on SH that illustrates the lineage:

    http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubb...Number=1033111

    So far I like my Spectre DR and I have had no POI issues switching between 1x and 4x. Granted, I do not kick in doors with it or use it in an austere environment, however, I believe many of the problems such as mounts coming loose, POI shift and accidental 1x to 4x lever actuation have been fixed on the Gen II. Many folks also complain about the weight, however my Spectre DR is an ounce lighter than my NF 1-4x in LT104 mount.

    I suspect this optic, like alot of pricey guns and components, get's a bad rap because the massess like to justify their reasons for not buying one....kinda like the SCAR. This is only my opinion.

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    Short Dot

    Larue QD bipod adaptor

    Problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GermanSynergy View Post
    FWIW I've never heard anyone issued an ELCAN have anything nice to say about them. A bipod on a CQBR type platform would be more of a hinderance than anything else- it will add alot of weight and isn't really ideally suited for this (CQB) platform.
    FWIW while digging around in DRMO at BAGRAM Airbase, I came across a box of ELCANs. When I asked about them I was told they lose their adjusment and it can't be repaired.

    Granted, combat is hard on equipment, and the box I saw could all have been the result of IED strikes, I never saw a box of damaged ACOGs, Aimpoints or EoTechs sitting around.

    As for a bipod, I ran one on my CQBR but mostly for range use; as stated, it's a bunch of weight and obstruction on the end of the bbl that doesn't make you any faster getting in/out of vehicles or thru doors.
    Last edited by LONGBOWAH; 08-24-10 at 12:12. Reason: additional info

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    Just because you see a pic of a dude with a 10.5 gun with a bipod while he is providing some kind of support does not mean that it is an optimal solution.

    Sure, you can stick a 10x mildot optic, bipod, suppressor, 325 lumen light, and a Geissele trigger on your 10.5, but you gotta ask, "why?"

    For distances at which 10.5 guns are relevant a bipod is not. Sure, you can get hits out to 700 meters with skill and luck with shorties, but that really isn't their job. How many people have/need bipods on their 16" GP guns? Not too many, unless their general purpose involves long-range/precision shooting, and in those cases a few more inches of barrel doesn't hurt portability much.

    But to tie it all together, I have never been in the middle of clearing an enclosure and thought,"man I wish I had a bipod right now," and while providing precision support I have never wished that my barrel was only 10.5 inches long.

    It seems to me that you are trying to gain capability by selecting accessories that are used to extend performance, not the ones that define the application framework. I would recommend recentering your approach- start with the base (gun) and then expand from there.
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    +1 F2S

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinB View Post
    Short Dot

    Larue QD bipod adaptor

    Problem solved.
    I've been thinking about the Short Dot, does it have a bullet drop compensator?

    F2S: Thanks for the advice. The perpose is that I want something that isn't too big for any enviornment (my apartment) but still get range out of it, I'm pretty dead set on not running the bipod though.

    Though... I really like Kevin's idea of a QD bipod adapter.
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    The GripPod can make it somewhat viable - but without a longer-than-carbine handguard space is limited for a QD Harris unit.

    I'm looking at hacking an AFG (the pack part) to butt against a GripPod - see if that solves some of horrific ergonomics of the grippod as I use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinB View Post
    Short Dot

    Larue QD bipod adaptor

    Problem solved.
    Agreed, at the very least on the QD bipod...


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    Has anyone tried the Fab T-Pod? Decent compromise or waste of money?

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    I am currently using my ACOG on my 11.5" until I can score an Aimpoint for a decent price.



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