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Thread: Benefit of .308 over .223 ? ?

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    The .223 VLDs will fly flatter than most .308 loads. The 80 JLK and the 155 Scenar are directly comparable.
    Last edited by SethB; 07-08-07 at 23:10. Reason: Compatible is not the same as comparable.

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    Here's an idea for you to consider. If you like the AR format (build of the rifle) why not go with either a 6.8 SPC or a 6.5 Grendel? That way you'd have an AR type rifle with the newer, heavier bullets and improved accuracy. Of course, if you really have your heart set on a bolt action rifle, you might want to consider Savage Rifles, Remington and/or Winchester Rifles in .223/5.56. At the distance you'll be shooting, the accuracy of a bolt-action rifle compared to a semi-automatic is pretty close to being negated. Sure, bolt actions are more accurate BUT at closer ranges the semi-automatics give you quicker return/follow-up fire capability. That being the case, I'd go with a slightly larger bullet like a new 6.5 or 6.8 bullet. Just a thought.

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    Thumbs up

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    Last edited by PALADIN-hgwt; 07-09-09 at 22:53.

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    .223 was designed for use in semiauto rifles. Specifically, the AR-15. Usage of .223 Remington in a bolt action rifle causes the ghost of Eugene Stoner to appear and curse your weapons with the Curse of Infinite Malfunctions, which makes all of your rifles jam constantly, even the falling-block single shot ones.

    It is blasphemy on the level of owning a .45ACP pistol that is not a 1911. Do not do it. It is bad juju.

    (This post was of course made in jest)



    -Mark

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    I have about 10,000 rounds throgh a Rem 700 VS using the Sierra 168 Match Bullet, and about 8,000 rounds of 5.56mm using 55 gn., and 75 Gn Hollow Point Match bullets.

    My experience tells me that it's not the "Flatness" of the 2 rouns you should be concerned with,....it's wind drift! The .223 out of a 20" AR is meant to perform Terminal Ballistics out to 200 yds by fragmenting on impact. Only about ~100 yds. from a short barrel carbine.

    A 168 gn. .308 bullet will buck the cross wind much better than a 55 or 75 gn. bullet big time, and give you terminal ballistics out to ~600 yds. It really depends on what you want the weapon to do. Short or long?

    Tack

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