Astigmatism which optic helps you the most?

[usmcvet]

Sounds like I should give an Eotech and the Insight a shot before I give up on red dots. I have buddies with eotexhs so that should not be hard. Maybe Insight will let me T&E a sight.

[jwperry]

When I had an EOTech, I had the "flaming hula hoop" effect and the image appeared to be really washed out.

Currently, I have an Aimpoint H1 and when I turn the brightness down, I no longer get the "grapes" effect doing this.

[JChops]

The only one that works with my severe astigmatism is the ACOG TA44SG-10 (1.5x).

EOTechs are not bad (clarity-wise) but the reticle is not for me, and Aimpoint T1 dots are projected as figure eight blobs. Makes it very difficult to shoot accurately. The TA44SG-10 green ring/dot remain crisp and clean to my eyes under all conditions I've tested.

I do wish the optic had better indoor performance; the reticle is not very bright in the dark or against a white background because the fiber optic tube just isn't picking up enough ambient light. You can still see the ring/dot, it's just not as powerful as a T1 dot.

That being said, the optic quality between a T1 and a TA44 is night and day. Put them side by side and the T1 looks like you are looking through a cheap toy compared to the TA44. (And this is no slam on the T1 which is adequate for what it does. The TA44 is just significantly clearer to my eyes.)

Grant @ G&R has some awesome pricing on them. I picked an extra one up from him not too long ago.

[usmcvet]

I just tried my eye glasses with the H1 on my work gun and I still see a bunch of grapes. I will look at G&R tonight thanks.

The only one that works with my severe astigmatism is the ACOG TA44SG-10 (1.5x).

EOTechs are not bad (clarity-wise) but the reticle is not for me, and Aimpoint T1 dots are projected as figure eight blobs. Makes it very difficult to shoot accurately. The TA44SG-10 green ring/dot remain crisp and clean to my eyes under all conditions I've tested.

I do wish the optic had better indoor performance; the reticle is not very bright in the dark or against a white background because the fiber optic tube just isn't picking up enough ambient light. You can still see the ring/dot, it's just not as powerful as a T1 dot.

That being said, the optic quality between a T1 and a TA44 is night and day. Put them side by side and the T1 looks like you are looking through a cheap toy compared to the TA44. (And this is no slam on the T1 which is adequate for what it does. The TA44 is just significantly clearer to my eyes.)

Grant @ G&R has some awesome pricing on them. I picked an extra one up from him not too long ago.

[ucrt]

That being said, the optic quality between a T1 and a TA44 is night and day. Put them side by side and the T1 looks like you are looking through a cheap toy compared to the TA44. (And this is no slam on the T1 which is adequate for what it does. The TA44 is just significantly clearer to my eyes.)

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Is that because the Aimpoint uses inferior glass or does the magnification (even though it is low) make the TA44 "appear" brighter?

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[usmcvet]

I doubt the glass is inferior it just looks bad with some of our ole eyes. For me it is the electronic red dot that just does not work well win my peepers.

Does the Short Dot give you guys the same problem. I've never had my hands on one to look through.

[shootist~]

Does the Short Dot give you guys the same problem. I've never had my hands on one to look through.

I played with a buddy's Meoptia K Dot (the "poor man's Short Dot") over several days and had no problems with my astigmatism. Very crisp and clear including illuminated.

FWIW, using my my bifocals, which are supposedly corrected for astigmatism, with the Comp ML3; I get the comma tail. Sometimes it's almost a diagonal figure 8.

Using my shooting glasses, which are distance corrected only (and not corrected for astigmatism), I don't see the comma but the subtension is much larger than it should be and a little blurry.

No grapes for me- just a navel orange.

[PD Sgt.]

I had astigmatism issues with my T-1 as well. I have not used a Short Dot, but my NF NXS 1-4 is crystal clear. I have also used a compact ACOG 1.5 with no problem either. The ACOG is probably the closest substitute for an Aimpoint type sight. The downsides have already been mentioned, notably a loss of brightness indoors.

For me, I was able to get prescription lenses that have taken care of the distortion for the most part. Also, if you keep the brightness down to just what you need to pick up the dot from your surroundings, the blooming is reduced.

[usmcvet]

Tried looking through a buddys Eotech today and it is lots of little dots for me. I need to try the little ACOG. Any one in Central VT out there with one I can take a look at?

[usmcvet]

Which compact ACOG 1.5 are you guys running, there are a lot of choices. I liked the green and red dots and the green and red dots inside of the circle. Even among the 1.5's there looks like a significant size difference between some of he models.