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    I worked in a high volume indoor shooting range for six years. The range had a policy prohibiting steel cased, core, or jacketed ammunition. In spite of that, wolf ammunition was common on the range. Almost weekly, someone had either a Mini 14 or AR with a round or case stuck in the chamber.

    Initially, I felt it was lacquer gumming up the chamber. I came to realize that it was soot, carbon and a filthy chamber issue. I also came to realize that most of the shooters suffering issues from it didn't own or know what a chamber brush was. Of the malfunctions I cleared and observed, the debris in the chamber caused the lacquered steel case to stick.

    FWIW, I never saw a malfunction with the polymer.

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    My problems have been maybe one stuck empty case for every 2000 rounds, cleared with a cleaning rod. Which has been maybe 6-7 overall for me.

    Other issues are that you really have to clean your chamber, and the primer sealant gunks up the firing pin channel in the bolt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carshooter View Post
    I worked in a high volume indoor shooting range for six years. The range had a policy prohibiting steel cased, core, or jacketed ammunition. In spite of that, wolf ammunition was common on the range. Almost weekly, someone had either a Mini 14 or AR with a round or case stuck in the chamber.

    Initially, I felt it was lacquer gumming up the chamber. I came to realize that it was soot, carbon and a filthy chamber issue. I also came to realize that most of the shooters suffering issues from it didn't own or know what a chamber brush was. Of the malfunctions I cleared and observed, the debris in the chamber caused the lacquered steel case to stick.

    FWIW, I never saw a malfunction with the polymer.
    I agree on carbon being the culprit there. Do you suppose the lacquer has a rougher surface to collect on? Maybe it just expanded more than the newer polymer coated cases? I suspect the coating or the case was changed to help prevent that but meltage wasn't an issue. YMMV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Have always heard that the polymer Wolf ammo can seperate if your chamber is hot enough. Anyone have this happen? Or worse yet, have the polymer melt in your chamber?

    For those that shoot this stuff, do you run your guns hot for long periods of time like you would in a carbine class??


    C4
    I ran mostly wolf in the carbine class I took a couple months ago. Many times the rifle got what I would call "pretty damn hot" for lack of a better term. I experienced no problems whatsoever.

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    I've heard more than a few times that Wolf ammo isn't accurate. I don't think that statement is 100% true, but I will agree that Wolf isn't as consistant (velocity-wise) as other ammunition -- a friend confirmed this with his chrono.

    That having been said, I did manage to wring out a 4" group at 200 yards with an unscoped Bushmaster today (2moa, prone, no support, iron sights -- not bad for a balding guy with glasses).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razoreye View Post
    I agree on carbon being the culprit there. Do you suppose the lacquer has a rougher surface to collect on? Maybe it just expanded more than the newer polymer coated cases? I suspect the coating or the case was changed to help prevent that but meltage wasn't an issue. YMMV.
    Based on my observations, that is exactly what I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Chief View Post
    but every time I hear the Wolf thing brought up (and it seems to come up often), I get this mental image of pumping regular unleaded fuel into a ZO6 Corvette or something.
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    Actually the knock sensors would take care of it if you did. You just wouldn't get maximum performance. Which yes, I know is the point of owning a z06 in the 1st place.

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    I just fired 12 rounds of wolf ammo into an 1&1/2" hole at 50yards this weekend using a SDI Mid-length barrel and a EOTech sight(Now hanging on my refrigerator )Not say that 50 yards is all that, but shooting accurately must be practiced and practiced often. If you do your part and have a decent rifle, you will get accuracy. 800 rounds of wolf so far and if I do my part, I'll get accurate hits. Wolf is "good to go" in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rharris2163 View Post
    I just fired 12 rounds of wolf ammo into an 1&1/2" hole at 50yards this weekend
    That's roughly 3 MOA accuracy.
    Completely acceptable if you are shooting smelly bearded guys across the street.
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    Talking

    Completely acceptable if you are shooting smelly bearded guys across the street.
    Good one!
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