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    Quote Originally Posted by gotm4 View Post
    The more I shoot the more I notice (like time slowing down, brass leaving the ejection port, the push of the stock into my shoulder, the smell of the powder, the rise and fall of the sights etc). When you do it enough you'll notice it too, it's like your mind is watching your body perform a well rehearsed play all by itself without thought. It's awareness (aka Zen).......................too deep for many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gotm4 View Post
    It's awareness (aka Zen).......................too deep for many.
    i'm usually focused on watching the bullet leave the barrel, watching it spin as sunlight glints off the rifling marks, as it arcs towards the target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by militarymoron View Post
    i'm usually focused on watching the bullet leave the barrel, watching it spin as sunlight glints off the rifling marks, as it arcs towards the target.
    Well I just like the loud noise

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotm4 View Post
    The more I shoot the more I notice (like time slowing down, brass leaving the ejection port, the push of the stock into my shoulder, the smell of the powder, the rise and fall of the sights etc). When you do it enough you'll notice it too, it's like your mind is watching your body perform a well rehearsed play all by itself without thought. It's awareness (aka Zen).......................too deep for many.
    I thought everyone noticed these things.
    Maybe some people don't shoot enough.
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    I'm normally to busy flinching and shutting my eyes as the disorientating loud report scares the crap out of me. I swear, my gun goes off and I black out for a few moments. Normally I realize what is going on, pants are a mess, rifle hanging from a sling, thumb in my mouth, occasionally laying in a fetal position on the ground...


    Back on topic. One of my buddies used steel bed to mate his upper and lower to a very tight fit, no lateral or front and back movement. Just a slight up and down, but not really noticeable. It was also on a target gun for NRA highpower stuff, and I think he used one of those 53.7lb steel lowers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by militarymoron View Post
    i'm usually focused on watching the bullet leave the barrel, watching it spin as sunlight glints off the rifling marks, as it arcs towards the target.
    Your focus should be on your front sight.


    Quote Originally Posted by AR15barrels View Post
    I thought everyone noticed these things.
    Maybe some people don't shoot enough.
    Exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by militarymoron View Post
    i'm usually focused on watching the bullet leave the barrel, watching it spin as sunlight glints off the rifling marks, as it arcs towards the target.
    When I shoot my UZI down at the lease, doing full auto mag dumps with the sun setting behind me, I can see every bullet during a portion of it's flight reflecting the sun off the base of the bullet

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    Quote Originally Posted by MH64 View Post
    Go to Lowe's, HD or any good hardware store and buy some #7 o-rings.
    Remove your upper from the lower and slide this o-ring over the front pivot of the upper.
    Reattach upper and lower and all slack/wiggle should be gone.
    Best of all if/when the o-ring fails it'll be on the outside where it can't mess with your tigger group.
    I've heard about this fix a lot of times. Currently I have no wiggle issues but just curious, does this O ring withstands the heat generated in the chamber that happens to be less than 1" appart from the front pivot? Do you have to change the O ring every time you use the rifle?

    I belive its 99% impossible for the O ring to end in the FCG as its already outside of the receivers, but I think that after about 2 30 rounders you'll end up with a melt rubber mess at the front pivot

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotm4 View Post
    If you don't like the wiggle (I don't either) use an Accuwedge, it doesn't make the rifle more accurate it just makes the wiggle stop. JP makes a two piece rear takedown screw that does the same thing but requires tools to take your AR apart, which is why I don't use one.
    +1 0n the Accu Wedge. I have had the same one in one of my M4's for over 7000 rounds now, and it is still going strong. Also...there has been no deteriorzation of the rubber to get in the way of any of the trigger group. I check it every time, and see no reason to be concerned.



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    So let me ask you this....

    How much wiggle is too much wiggle? I realize that wiggle is acceptable, however, is there a point where it becomes unacceptable? Further, if a particular firearm has what would be deemed unacceptable slop, how does one remedy it short of replacing the upper or lower?

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