1-4x Optic Groupings?

**XxMerlinxX** · 09-01-10, 21:19

What sort of groups are you guys getting and at what distance are you getting them with your 1-4x? I'm wondering if I've set my expectations a little high and would like a benchmark to check my own groups against.

**Exiledviking** · 09-02-10, 01:13

Love my TR24R. See below.

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=60354

I think a lot of it comes back on the gun and the shooter
If you have a AR that you are able shoot groups between 1-2" at 100 yards, I don't think you're giving up anything with a TR24.

**beavo451** · 09-02-10, 16:56

TR-24G here

Roughly 3" group at 100 yards with 55 gr Monarch soft points launched out of a 12.5" Colt barrel and using the magazine as a monopod.

**Singlestack Wonder** · 09-02-10, 17:19

TR24R

DPMS LR308AP4, 16" barrel, 147grain, 3/4"@100 yards

**nickdrak** · 09-02-10, 17:24

I think an EXCEPTIONAL shooter with a 1-4x variable power scope, a quality charome lined or Match grade SS barrel, and match ammo should be able to consistently shoot 5 round 1" groups @ 100 yards from a stable supported prone position.

I think depending on your skill level, 2" groups are a reasonable expectation for a low power variable scope assuming a quality host weapon and quality ammo.

Over the past year that I have had my current patrol rifle set-up: BCM 16" Mid-Length Hammer Forged barrel with a free-float handguard, and a Trijicon TR24G 1-4x scope, I have been able to only twice squeeze out a 1" group using match grade ammo at 100 yards. My 5 round, 100 yards groupings with this set-up are typically around 2". Im completely happy with that.

**Belmont31R** · 09-02-10, 18:21

My 16" Stealth with a Short-Dot usually shoots around 1"-1.5" groups at 100 with match ammo. It likes SSA 77GR 5.56 SMK's and Hornady Match Training 75GR OTM's. Suprisingly it shoots the training ammo better than the regular match or TAP. The last time I had it out I shot a 1.1" group with the training ammo (10rd group). Anyways thats off bags front and rear with light wind.

With a CL barrel I think 2" groups would be doing pretty good.

Id also suggest trying some different targets. I know I shoot better with some targets than others just because I can keep the dot/reticle in the same place each shot. Thats hard to do with a giant circle. I prefer a 1" grid back ground with 4 2" squares and a 1" dot in the middle.

**nickdrak** · 09-02-10, 19:29

Belmont provides some good info above.

I also think it is important to draw a distinction between your "Best group EVER" and typical accuracy.

1-4x variable power scopes where never intended for benchrest accuracy testing. Don't get too wrapped up with trying to get all of your rounds through the same hole with a 4x scope.

**JHC** · 09-02-10, 20:43

Hey, we were running short on Black Hills ammo so my son just shot 3 shot groups. Scope is a Nikon 1-4X. About $273 from Midway.
This Recce has shot a lot of 3 and 5 shot groups like this at 100 and 200.