Larue over reaction or just a jerk?

[Sid Post]

I don't fully understand everything that is happening because threads keep getting deleted. Why it doesn't just die and stay dead is an issue for the parties involved to decide.

I didn't get to read the full original Noveske thread because the original was deleted before I read it. It started out with a discussion of Larue barrels and apparently ended with some discussion of market infringement.

If you look at Noveske's website, it seems they have parted company with most Larue products.

What I don't understand is what is prompting Larue's rants. I have had a bad day or two in my life and posted a thing or two that I would like to have permanently deleted but, I usually have the good sense and restraint to let things die when I cross the line of good common sense.

I wrote off another company for similar issues long ago but, in all fairness I could find equal quality products for similar prices elsewhere so, it really wasn't a personal sacrafice. If Larue is going to continue to rant, I will quit buying his products. He won't care about the minor loss of business because as stated elsewhere he and his company are driven by military orders.

I don't by KAC products because of price and a total lack of customer service. KAC is clearly focused on larger more lucrative contracts with military orders so, they don't really care about my minor purchases. Are Larue's rants a precursor to adopting a similar marketing strategy?

As for letting the whole thing die. Larue keeps bringing it up and apparently is fighting with two different respected companies. That suggests to me that the problem is with Larue.

In the beginning it all seems to have started with an over reaction about an event that was either embellished or miss understood when it was told to him. He didn't have the common sense to let the issue drop and now just keeps fanning the flames of discontent.

Silencer Talk thread seems to be a common reference

[rob_s]

It is too bad that these things have to be aired in public. Neither side wins these pissing contest and more often than not both sides lose.

Which is why the Gemtech model is such a good one.

In the case at hand (AAC vs. Larue) they are both doing a grand job of looking like asses in public.

[rob_s]

Do you guys have any links to the threads you are talking about?

This was the first one
ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=20&t=223634

and then, not content to let things go, this is the second
ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=219&t=155597

[olds442tyguy]

My first notice of Mark's actions are when he said the DD Lite rails are junk becuase they're lighter than his rails. This was in response to Stickman saying he thinks the Lite rail is the best rail on the market, to answer the posters question of "who makes the best rail". Later he claimed it was justified because Stickman said DD was the best, and Sickman has financial interest.

Mark stops shipping rails to Noveske, then coincidentally comes out with an upper that has all the same features of a Noveske. John gets pissed (rightfully IMO), and Mark makes a big dramatic post about it making John out to be the bad guy.

Mark Laure makes a topic to bash the guy who sold the VT shooter his Glock. The guy who sold the gun is a member of many forums, is very helpful, and one of the most respectful guys I know of (online atleast). Mark just keeps pushing ragging on this guy for BS reasons.

Stickman asks Mark a question in a private e-mail. Mark Larue goes public and tries to convince people Stickman is spreading rumors about his products, even though Stickman never told a soul and only asked Mark. He attempts to turn people against him, all the while stalking Stickman. The back story is alot more interesting than what many people know to. It's not my place to share, but let's just say I can't honestly believe that deep down Mark is a good guy in real life.

AAC does something questionable, but not outright wrong at SHOT. The problem is solved until 6 months later when Larue makes a topic on ArfCom to bash AAC out of no where. More drama for nothing. He posts the e-mails where he goes off the deep end with profanity and personal insults, all the while AAC is being professional and seems confused.


I apologize because I know there are people here I respect that are going to take these comments personal due to their connections with Mark, but you couldn't pay me to have the name Larue on anything I own at this point. Real life or the net, no so called "professional" should act the way he does. There's a big difference bewteen stating your opinions and dramaticizing and digging for unwanted conflict.

ETA: I'd post links to all of the ArfCom threads, but they magically disappear when things start to go sour for Mark.

[Yojimbo]

This was the first one
ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=20&t=223634

and then, not content to let things go, this is the second
ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=219&t=155597

Thanks for the links Rob, now I remember what this is all about...

[SHIVAN]

What is happening over on AR-15.com with Mark Larue?

On the grounds of, "Why not ask over on AR15.com, about what is going on at AR15.com", I think this should probably be left to fester over there.

In short, M4Carbine.net really doesn't want to have the juvenile BS from other sites trickle over to here.