Red Dot Sights - if Green is so good...

[payj]

are you talking about the TR24? is that the red one that you have experience with, or just an aimpoint?

TA33 Red Chev, thought we were talking about acogs or fiber optic/ tritium powered optics here? If not I own an AP M4s and a strikefire. The Strikefire in green looks OK for some reason I prefer red. Honestly I have no reason why that is. Just played with both and that's what I like. Like a I said I have no experience with the green tritium/ fiber optic though.

[sniperfrog]

I have the TA33H-G and am kinda wishing I had gone with red. Here in east Tennessee everything is pretty green. When looking at foliage the reticle sometimes does blend in a little but I can still see it. It's just not as obvious as red would be.

I'm going to take it to work and try it with some night vision to see how it looks.

[payj]

I have the TA33H-G and am kinda wishing I had gone with red. Here in east Tennessee everything is pretty green. When looking at foliage the reticle sometimes does blend in a little but I can still see it. It's just not as obvious as red would be.

I'm going to take it to work and try it with some night vision to see how it looks.

Would be very interested to hear about that with the Night Vision.......


Yesterday I had a chance to check out a green Accupoint that my local shop had. While I did not take it out side I was able to point it out into the trees and such. I live in WA so all there is green, green and more green. I could see the reticule just fine. That said, it did not stand out near as much as red. I was with two friends they both felt the same way, having used my rifle to know what red is like. I feel that it would have washed out more too in the sun if I was outside.

[JSantoro]

I imagine green would suck when using night vision too.

Most green wavelengths used in optics are around 532nm, +/- 20nm, which is pretty much smack-dab in the middle of the human visible range of 400-700nm, +/-. The viewing range of GenIII I-square tubes in NVDs starts at around 600nm, with the human IR range starting right around 700nm. White light is still visible to NVDs because white light includes ALL visible wavelengths, including those in the visible red range.

Green is, more often than not, too low a wavelength for GenIII-tubed night vision devices to see. Not factoring how drunk the little old lady at the factory was the day any given tube was made (she's a total lush, and she's in every factory you'd care to mention)....

GenII tubes are more likely to pick up green wavelengths.

Pound for pound, the primary reason for RDSs to use red is for use with I-square devices.

What ra2bach said above about the individual's eye(s) is also a larger factor than conventional wisdom is willing to admit. There is "selective" color-blindness in much the same way as somebody with hearing damage may only have it within a certain audio range and not others.

[Rated21R]

Tons of good info. here, I am still trying to decide between red/green for a TR24.

[Redneck19]

I believe in theory Red obscures a target in low light conditions whereas I think the Green on a very sunny blue bird day becomes hard to pick up or at least not nearly as fast....and so red is a better choice for daylight shooting and green is a better choice for lower light conditions.

That said, I personally own a Amber triangle w. post accupoint

Darn! Just when I'd settled on the red triangle accupoint. Oh well, you can't have it all.
Is the Amber a happy medium?

[Redneck19]

I have the TA33H-G and am kinda wishing I had gone with red. Here in east Tennessee everything is pretty green. When looking at foliage the reticle sometimes does blend in a little but I can still see it. It's just not as obvious as red would be.

I'm going to take it to work and try it with some night vision to see how it looks.

Interesting. Taking into consideration the foliage. It would probably be alright in the fall/winter.

[sniperfrog]

Would be very interested to hear about that with the Night Vision.......


Yesterday I had a chance to check out a green Accupoint that my local shop had. While I did not take it out side I was able to point it out into the trees and such. I live in WA so all there is green, green and more green. I could see the reticule just fine. That said, it did not stand out near as much as red. I was with two friends they both felt the same way, having used my rifle to know what red is like. I feel that it would have washed out more too in the sun if I was outside.

I haven't had a chance to try it out with NVGs yet, but I will this weekend.

Outside in the sunlight the reticle glows very bright and looks neon green due to the fiber optic picking up more light. It has no problem showing up against any foliage. The only problem comes when you are inside looking out a window on a bright day or in a shady area outside. You can still pick up the reticle but it's not as obvious as red.

At night the green is much better than the red or amber even when using a flashlight.


I guess each color has pros and cons. Just decide which is most important to you.

[ra2bach]

What ra2bach said above about the individual's eye(s) is also a larger factor than conventional wisdom is willing to admit. There is "selective" color-blindness in much the same way as somebody with hearing damage may only have it within a certain audio range and not others.

what you said fits me to a "T". I have hearing damage and some people's voices are simply outside my ability to understand easily, no matter how loud they speak. deeper voiced people are no problem as are low pitched sound. ie., I can often hear a car door slamming outside and know someone is in our driveway long before anyone else in the family with "better" hearing. my wife calls it "convenient" hearing and says I just do that to ignore her.