Remington 700 detachable mag setup question?

[N2WishN]

Gentlemen,

What is the best detachable box mag system for the Remington 700 in .308? I am wanting to upgrade to a system that allows for use to up to a 10 round mag. Any advice and info on where to get it will be appreciated. Thanks.

[carbinero]

Lots of choices out there, although I'd restrict to those which take AI mags. Snipershide will have a lot of info for you. Check out this version: http://mannersstocks.com/mcs-dbm.html

[maximus83]

Some quality DBM's that will take AI mags:

* Badger Ordnance
* Seekins Precision (coming out new with the AI version)
* Surgeon
* CDI Precision

Some proprietary DBM's that also get good reviews:

* Seekins Precision
* HS Precision
* Wyatt Outdoors (used in the new Les Baer tactical rifles)

[titsonritz]

Lots of choices out there, although I'd restrict to those which take AI mags.

Can you please elaborate on this statement? I was considering converting a Rem. 700 (possibly other, still in research mode) to accept M14 mag because I have a ton of them. While I am not opposed a different magazine, my thoughts were the simplified logistics would be a good bonus. Any info would be most appreciated.

[carbinero]

I prefer to standardize with most commonly accepted platforms, all else being equal. I think AI is that for 700 DMs, but of course there are perfectly valid reasons for choosing otherwise. A friend of mine wants to get a RRA 308 since he has lots of FAL mags. If I were him, I'd get an LMT and lots of p-mags.

[Gutshot John]

Can you please elaborate on this statement? I was considering converting a Rem. 700 (possibly other, still in research mode) to accept M14 mag because I have a ton of them. While I am not opposed a different magazine, my thoughts were the simplified logistics would be a good bonus. Any info would be most appreciated.

I entertained this idea a while ago but there is a reason it's not done more frequently...it can be done but the cost involved is prohibitive. Even if you do it, you're likely to encounter feeding issues. DBMs with few exceptions are notoriously problematic.

Honestly I'd stick with a hinged floorplate. You're not gaining that much in terms of a dbm.

[crossgun]

There are NO issues at all with the 700 and DBM. Its done ALL the time and the reliability is 100% when using the AI (Accuracy International) style mag as most all the DBMs are designed to fit it.

I dont think that using a M14 mag is wise at all. Seeing that the entire planet is running the AI mag should pretty much indicate that to you. CLUE! The mags are expensive and you will spend about $300 for bottom metal. You may also have to have your stock inlet to except the bottom metal pending the brand you choose which will again increase the cost. There are some new options coming out that replace the original factory inlet.

http://www.hooperordnance.com/page1.aspx

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubb...96#Post2009096

Badger stuff is good to go

[titsonritz]

Thanks for the insight guys. I was checking out a Custom Rem 700 by Robar that used M14 mags and thought it was slicker than snail snot, but that was quite a few years back and sounds like the AI mags have more than proven themselves.

[Gutshot John]

There are NO issues at all with the 700 and DBM. Its done ALL the time and the reliability is 100% when using the AI (Accuracy International) style mag as most all the DBMs are designed to fit it.

As you pointed out there are no issues WHEN you use proper AI magazines. Stock/Factory DBMs are indeed problematic...so like I said "with few exceptions." AI seems to work as well as a hinged floorplate but no firearm is "100% reliable."

I've seen the issues repeatedly first hand with all kinds of DBMs and have heard gunsmiths and snipers alike comment that otherwise it's hit or miss and that is why most prefer a hinged floorplate. If I gave the impression that Badger/Seekins/AI were unreliable than that was my fault.

At >$50/each (not to mention the internal mechanism) for at most 10 rounds in a bolt gun, I don't see that DBMs bring much to the table for the cost involved.

Robar no longer makes the M14 magazine model for the exact reasons specified.

[SPDSNYPR]

I don't understand the cost involved with a DBM system. I think they're outlandishly overpriced. For the cost of an AR lower group already built by a decent maker, you can buy the bottom metal for a Rem 700 that takes $75-100 mags. What a deal.

I'd be interested if the bottom metal and one mag installed on my stock didn't cost what the rest of the rifle cost. I just can't justify the expense. It's a machined chunk of aluminum - the same stuff they make my AR out of. It doesn't drop into a stock easily, takes mags that are 4x the cost, and for some reason the materials and machine work just cost 3x as much. I don't get it.

Yes, they're cool, and they serve a purpose. But until they gets costs down to a reasonable level, I'm not going to have one.