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    Quote Originally Posted by m249saw View Post
    If its a dedicated, full time suppressed weapon buy a 16" barrel from ADCO and have him cut it to 10.5" for the smaller gas port size.

    This is my plan anywho after emailing him.
    I kinda want the best of both worlds. I want it to run without the suppressor too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoryCop25 View Post
    Since BCM does not make a 10.3/10.5 inch barrel, which brands would be a good choice for this length barrel? I have 2 DD CHF barrels, one Colt and one WOA. I am planning to run this build 90% of the time with a suppressor.
    LMT 10.5" would be my first choice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Why do that when there are other options? Just curious? if it were me I would just go with a BCM 11.5".
    Two reason's to go dedicated...

    1. Theres no benefit to shooting unsupressed.
    2. An SBR tuned to run with a suppressor is more reliable and less prone to break parts than one that isn't.

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    Depending on end use, there are lots of reasons to go unsuppressed. This is often one of the difficult things to explain to vendors and manufacturers when discussing the commercial market especially.

    While a SWAT team may always run their guns suppressed a commercial end-user may find many circumstances in which he wouldn't want or need the can. All one needs to do is compare sales of cans like the G5 and various AAC products with QD mounts to their direct-thread cans in the commercial market. Having the ability to easily add or remove the can is generally very important to most non-LE civilian buyers, or anyone making a private purchase for that matter.

    This is, of course, the genius of the Switchblock. Rather than argue about whether or not a gun should be able to run with or without a can, or why anyone would want to do one or the other, Noveske realized the desire in the marketplace to be able to do both and they created a part to fill that void in the market. Smart guys.

    Personally I think cans are probably one of the single biggest ways to waste money for the commercial buyer, but if you are going to buy one, I suggest finding a way to get the gun to run both with and without the can, or have two guns one suppressed and one non. If you're like me the utterly useless suppressed gun will almost never leave the house.

    to the OP, if you're going to be running with and without the can, I'd suggest this. note the FH on the end of the barrel. If I was starting over today with the SBR/can thing I'd have a hard time buying anything other than this. Although another option that might be cool is to hog out the slot needed for the Switchblock on a Troy VTAC tube...

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    I shot my Noveske 10.5 Yesterday on an M16A1 FA lower.

    I ran it with and without the AAC M42000 and it functioned flawlessly.

    There's just something about this Noveske upper that makes me prefer it over my Colt 6933 - 11.5".

    I have the AAC Brakeout and an Eotech XPS on the Noveske.

    ___I forgot to give a shout out to Rob @ Virginia Arms in earlier threads for putting the Brakeout on for me.

    VA had quick service and great installation and shipping costs -end Virigna Arms plug______but seriously, I would use them again

    I know that the Brakeout makes muzzle rise practically nonexistent and fat chicks love the fireball coming out the business end.

    I would by another Noveske SBR upper in a second.

    The switch block is interesting, but I've just never had a problem with any of my guns running suppressed so I hate to spend the extra $$ on a solution to a problem Ihave not had on my guns.

    Having said that, If I came across a good deal on a used Noveske with the switchblock, I wouldn't turn it down.


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    Quote Originally Posted by geezerbutler View Post
    I shot my Noveske 10.5 Yesterday on an M16A1 FA lower.

    I ran it with and without the AAC M42000 and it functioned flawlessly.

    There's just something about this Noveske upper that makes me prefer it over my Colt 6933 - 11.5".

    I have the AAC Brakeout and an Eotech XPS on the Noveske.

    ___I forgot to give a shout out to Robb @ Virginia Arms in earlier threads for putting the Brakeout on for me.

    VA had quick service and great installation and shipping costs -end Virgina Arms plug______but seriously, I would use them again

    I know that the Brakeout makes muzzle rise practically nonexistent and fat chicks love the fireball coming out the business end.

    I would by another Noveske SBR upper in a second.

    The switch block is interesting, but I've just never had a problem with any of my guns running suppressed so I hate to spend the extra $$ on a solution to a problem Ihave not had on my guns.

    Having said that, If I came across a good deal on a used Noveske with the switchblock, I wouldn't turn it down.


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    Quote Originally Posted by geezerbutler View Post
    The switch block is interesting, but I've just never had a problem with any of my guns running suppressed so I hate to spend the extra $$ on a solution to a problem Ihave not had on my guns.
    I agree that an AR can run with just a silencer added. It is perfectly fair to do the cost/benefit for your application.

    The decrease in recoil and increase in muzzle control is very noticeable with a properly tuned gas system and silencer.
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    I am not talking about it being dedicated. I am talking about cutting down a 16" barrel. I run my SBR suppressed almost all the time. However, correct me if I am wrong. Running any AR suppressed actually stresses the weapon more due to excess back pressure, correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by MK18Pilot View Post
    Two reason's to go dedicated...

    1. Theres no benefit to shooting unsupressed.
    2. An SBR tuned to run with a suppressor is more reliable and less prone to break parts than one that isn't.
    Last edited by Iraqgunz; 09-24-10 at 17:22.



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    I find that 11.5" is a happy compromise. IIRC 10.5" is about the lowest you can go and still get reliable fragmentation and reliability. With an 11.5" you get a little more Mv, plus reliability and I dare to say that most people won't notice the additional inch.

    Most women won't notice it either.

    Quote Originally Posted by CoryCop25 View Post
    Please elaborate...I was just kinda stuck on the 10.3/10.5. I just want the gun to be short enough with the suppressor attached.



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    The main reason for a can with me is the blast of an SBR (especially with an AAC Brake to save some of the blast baffle). Without it its just murder shooting under the awning at the range.

    And Iraqgunz you are probably right with the 11.5". In fact I may very well go that route, although the Noveske 10.5" Switchblock upper is pure sex too, just its another $1500 on top of a $1100 can with the tax stamp.

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