SPR or SAM-R as next build?

**jwfuhrman** · 10-10-10, 19:33

K, so I wanna use this as my "precision" AR rig. Occasional shots out to 600yds

I am for sure going with a BCM upper, but not sure if the 18in MK12 mod 0(with PRI tube) or a SAM-R 20in would be better for what I need(not really need, more of a want/would like/add to the Can I have one please Dearest wifey list)

Just looking for opinions. Ive got 2 BCM uppers already using their SS410 barrels(12.5in KINO and 16in Recce) and the accuracy is much much better than a HF barrel.

**Mo_Zam_Beek** · 10-10-10, 21:09

A thought - before you dump a bunch of money into a new rig - shoot a 16" and an 18" or 20" on steel at 600 and beyond. Stop and ask yourself "why?".

If you do, get a 6.5 or better.

Good luck

**Belmont31R** · 10-10-10, 21:16

A larger than 556 caliber is better for LR shooting but if your primary concern is accuracy barrel length matters little.

However for ease of use and "total package" I think a 16" goes best with something like an ACOG or 1-4X variable. An 18" or 20" goes better with a dedicated setup like an SPR with a large variable optic, bi-pod, ect where weight and portability are secondary factors.

Between an SPR and SAM-R I don't think you'd really see any meaningful difference. Pretty much two options to do the same thing. The extra 2" of barrel length isn't going to do much for you.

**TehLlama** · 10-11-10, 01:06

The SAM-R profile is still my favorite weapon when it comes to looks, but an SPR or Recce can do pretty much the same thing accuracy wise.

I'd say buy a very nice optic for your 16" Recce, and see how much of an improvement that gets you at 600, and decide from there. Worst case - you've already got the glass if you decide to get yourself a Mk12 or SAMR/SDMR clone.

**jwfuhrman** · 10-11-10, 07:48

My Recce is a 16in with a 1-4x24, mostly use it for 3gun matches, but it also fills the Varmint/Walk About role pretty well.

The SPR/SAM-R build will be topped with a 3-9x40. Its going to fill the role of the lighter weight precision rig. I have a Rem700 in 308 that I use for F-class/Sniper Challenge matches like the Mammoth Sniper Challenge (mammothsniperchallenge.com)

What Im wanting this rig for is to be a little more mobile than the 308, but at the same time be a mid range, and maybe push it out to 800 when I have the chance. At the Mammoth match I can run my Bolt 308 or a Semi 223/308. May switch it up and run the SPR/Sam-R once and awhile for that kinda stuff.

But its sounding like the extra 2in isnt necessary, so I will most likely go with a 18in SPR

**ALCOAR** · 10-12-10, 00:14

No doubt, the SPR imho.

The SAM-R is irrelevant in the face of a true precision based recce or any SPR.

**TehLlama** · 10-12-10, 20:41

Originally Posted by TRIDENT82

No doubt, the SPR imho.

The SAM-R is irrelevant in the face of a true precision based recce or any SPR.

I completely agree - despite the SAM-R being my favorite looking weapon system, I now own two 18" SPR's, and I think the MC adopting Mk12's reflects the same decision making.

**ALCOAR** · 10-12-10, 21:19

Its a beautiful gun for sure.

I tell you what though, after recently getting my new Rock SS 16" which is the exact same barrel as my existing Rock SPR 18" just cut down..outshoot the Org. 18", I am only left to think Less is More when holding the match grade barrel and other specs critical to match accuracy constant.

Can anyone say Rock SS 14.5"