TEOTAWKI situation, your house is gonna get destroyed(natural disaster, nuked, etc.) you have to carry what you take and whatever you take is all you have besides what you find along the way...what all do you take?
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TEOTAWKI situation, your house is gonna get destroyed(natural disaster, nuked, etc.) you have to carry what you take and whatever you take is all you have besides what you find along the way...what all do you take?
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Rig pull trailer to bike and ride like hell. Oldest and second oldest in pull trailer. Youngest two in Kid trailer attached to my wife's bike. And by the way, the oldest is armed with an AR. She is a dead aim. In the trailer is our BUG out BAG. Has basically the 10 essentials plus water purification stuff, shelters, Emerg Radio. etc.
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Nuke, forget it, I can't run fast enough to escape safely. Natural disaster really depends on location, but there are some things you won't be able to outrun with a limited amount of warning. I guess plan to get out to a "safe area" with your BOB, and weapon, cash, small barter items(gold, jewels, etc...) there will always be those who value money over needed supplies.
If I can't outrun the disaster I will pour a scotch and light a cigar and make sure I have a good view, or spend time with loved ones if they are with me.
Last edited by jklaughrey; 10-11-10 at 20:42.
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1qt canten with cup, 1lb of beef jerkey, ~200ft of 550 cord, multitool, Bic lighter, and a compass. If I have a little extra time, then an extra pair of socks, two pairs of gloves...one thick leather pair and a lighter, polypro type, and a watch cap.
I would try to stay as light as possible and keep everything so that it could be carried on me at all times without any kind of bag. If SHTF, I don't know how much time I'd have to react, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head.
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IMHO, I'm going to pack the essentials- small survival kit. Water purifier. small first aid. firearm. handful of high calorie protein bars and a fresh pair of socks.
These can sustain me for a rather lengthy period of time and since I am in an Urban environment, I can scavenge virtually anything I need on my way. This allows me freedom of movement and speed. Very important factors in an E&E scenario (particularly if hostiles are in the area) Urban areas of operation are rich in supplies if a person has a knowledge of how to secure them. Basic lockpicking will go a long way. I'd rather spend 10 minutes poking my head into an abandoned kitchen than carry the weight of a 7 day food and water supply.
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only the one AR that your oldest has?? its going to be hell bugging out with 4 kids on bikes and trailers(not knocking your plan, just saying)...Originally Posted by Huntindoc
lets say you do make it out...what kind of weapon/s?
this would probably be my strategy, have a way to carry/purify water, and make fire(which can purify)..would you have a weapon?
i have a couple lock pick sets and practice...what kind of weapon would you have?
to all of you, how many mags/ammo would you take? assuming if you cant find any more, itll be all you have...
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That would depend on how imminent the danger was. If it was a normal natural disaster situation I would have my XD and 6 mags or so. If it is a more lethal atmosphere or there are bands of looters in the area I would have my M4 slung along with my battle vest and a full combat load....250 rounds.....
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Interesting that you say that. Recently the wife and I have been looking at bicycle towable trailers and other solutions. We have found what appear to be some great saddle bags for bicycles. We believe that with the right trailer and bags and packs we should be able to live for a few weeks on the road Vs. 5 or so days of humping with everything on our backs.
In the mean time I just grab the rucks and old LBEs that stay packed (clothing, spare boots, food, medicine, etc..) put in some extra ammo grab the firearms and we are on our way. I figure we will have a 5 day supply of food and then we will be screwed and need to look for other food sources. Food is the prime limiting factor. OUr next one would be the kids, ages 12 and 10. They have their own packs as well and are very experienced with camping and hiking and have their own .22s, but they can only move so far, so fast.
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Cliche NCO quote time:
Your mind is your strongest weapon.
If the time came where I had to E&E, being armed would be something I would handle after I've made enough of a separation from myself and whatever it is that's causing me to have to leave my home in such a rush. If this is an "End of the World" kind of thing, then you don't have to be the toughest cat on the block...just tougher than atleast one other person who has what you need.
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If I'm buggin' out on foot then it means I've run out of everything at home and from nearby scrounging sources and I'm forced to live on the lam. By that point we are well into a post-apocalyptic world. If that is the case, I'm grabbing my backpacking gear that is designed to be efficient and light weight. My pack list would include:
stove w/ multi-fuel canister, titanium cookware set, tent/tarp, sleeping bag, a change of clothes and multiple pairs of underwear and socks, small fishing kit, essentials - food, water & the means to purify more, FAK, medications
My wife and I would split weights a lot when we were backpacking a lot. One person might carry the "kitchen" while the other would carry the tent and we would divide the food and water load. It makes going a lot easier.
As far as guns go, I would also grab my Glock 23 with a couple of spare mags and my M4 with about four or five mags.
The most essential thing I would have is a destination in mind, which would be determined by the scope of the situation. That would largely determine how much of that crap I'd tote around or what I'd leave behind.
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