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    Weapons Grease!

    Im pleased to hear you now have a weapons specific grease George.Been waiting for yall to make such a product for years.Let us know here when the grease is ready to ship and I will load up.
    Hopefully your next gun care project is getting the CAC back on the market.That stuff worked better than anything Ive used to date.
    Hey did yall ever get the Weapon Shield hats finished?
    Glock Certified Armorer
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    Swag, CAC and MY BRO RAY!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Blankwaffe View Post
    Im pleased to hear you now have a weapons specific grease George.Been waiting for yall to make such a product for years.Let us know here when the grease is ready to ship and I will load up.
    Hopefully your next gun care project is getting the CAC back on the market.That stuff worked better than anything Ive used to date.
    Hey did yall ever get the Weapon Shield hats finished?
    Hey Ray!!
    Glad to see you post me up my friend.
    We'll public demand forced me but I'm glad we did. Mark seemed to think it was a real good idea and took the bull by the horns with the labeling and such. Used the same formula as the Lithi-Shield #2, but sweetened it up with Weapon Shield while softening it down to a #1. Added some trademark cinnimon too. I was duly impressed with the end result. I even had it out in -20 deg F weather with no functional problems in my Kimber and 5.7x28. We could have gone to a #0 or #00 but then it'd have been more like soup or a very thick open gear lube, all runny and such. The #1 was the perfect call.
    AND...you must be psychic man...lol. The CAC (Corrosive Ammo Cleaner, for those who wondered) is on the spit and cookin. We'll have it ready by summer so the fall muzzleloaders will be in full stock. Thought of calling it CABPC (Corrosive Ammo and Black Powder Cleaner). Still not settled on the name but the stuff in the bottle is an improvement over the old Buffler Milk, as the WS is a definate improvement over the FP-10. HATS....yessss. Have to place another order. Had a half dozen or so for promo and ended giving them all away. We'll make more
    Well...I need to get some sleep. 5AM and Bill O'Reily is on Fox. Talk at you later, bro.
    Best regards,
    George
    George C. Fennell
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    Steel Shield Technologies, Inc.- Weapon Shield
    www.steelshieldtech.com
    www.weaponshield.com

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    Ive been watering down the Lithi Shield with Weapon Shield for sometime now.You sent me two pounds of the stuff to test out a couple years ago and its worked really well for me.
    I primarily use it on the bearing surfaces of the pistols and the cam pin area of the BCG on the AR's.Works great as a choke lube as well.Main use Ive had recently for the grease though is on the cylinder arbors of the Colt cap-n-ball revolvers.As you know I just like a grease for some applications and I can't help it...Im just a greaser at heart.
    As far as the CAC...it just flat out works.Certainly much better stuff than the blue TC cleaner made by Tetra.
    Anyway,once you get the whole line up and running it will be a one stop shop for me.
    Keep up the good work George...I sure appreciate the thought and effort you put into the products,and your customer service.Hope your health keeps improving for you as well.Maybe we will see you at a 3-gun sometime soon.
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    :P

    I have a weapon shield hat.

    Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast. Fast is good.

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    BAH

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaos View Post
    :P

    I have a weapon shield hat.
    No you dont J...lol
    Lycanthrope does tho and Taran Butler, and Me, and...
    I know where they all are or went

    And Raymond...
    Thanks. It wont be long at all.
    Man, would I ever love to start shooting 3-Gun again, but my health has to REALLY improve alot.
    Some of the COFs I've shot over the years have been unbelievably rigorous, as they should be.
    Those are matches for the fittest of the fit.
    IDPA are the non-demanding less physical ones.
    Best,
    George
    Last edited by gcfennell; 02-26-09 at 20:21.
    George C. Fennell
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    Steel Shield Technologies, Inc.- Weapon Shield
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    www.weaponshield.com

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    George,
    I received my sample of WS in the mail toady...and in a handy li'l oiler pen.
    Thanks

    I've got her wet-n-ready with the new stuff and I'll post a report as soon as time allows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.P. View Post
    George,
    I received my sample of WS in the mail toady...and in a handy li'l oiler pen.
    Thanks

    I've got her wet-n-ready with the new stuff and I'll post a report as soon as time allows.
    Super, JP....keep us posted please.
    Best,
    George
    George C. Fennell
    Technical Director
    Steel Shield Technologies, Inc.- Weapon Shield
    www.steelshieldtech.com
    www.weaponshield.com

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    When I last posted I mentioned that the Colt was wet-n-ready with the Weaponshield and I'd give a report after going to the range.
    However, one thing after another has prevented me from getting out there this week/weekend so I can 't give a report just yet.
    If all the stars line up correctly, maybe I can go today or tomorrow.
    One thing I've noticed since lubing with the WS v. the Mobile-1 is that the outside parkerized surfaces seem to retain a semi-gloss appearence with the WS where as the Mobile-1 seems to soak in (or whatever) leaving the barrel looking dry and again w/ a matte appearence.

    That said, I decided to conduct a corrosion test on a polished steel test panel that I've been setting aside just for that purpose.
    I thought I had some of the extremely popular Breakfree CLP to include in the test but as it turned out I didn't.
    This unscientific test includes the following:
    1-Lubrimatic White Lithium Grease
    2-Shooter's Choice All weather Hi-Tech Grease
    3-Brownell's Friction Defense Gun Oil
    4-Mobile-1 15w50
    5-Weaponshield CLP
    6-Shooter's Choice FP-10 Lubricant Elite

    Yesterday I degreased and coated the panel in individual sections with each of the lubes and left it outside in the bed of my truck so that the elements could do their work

    We had a small storm front move through early this morning but it only brought a few drops of rain...not enough for the "rain test".
    However, since I forgot to sweep out the bed of my truck the wind blew dirt all over my test panel and stuck to the oils.
    Immediately I noticed that some of the oils held the dirt/debris much worse (or is it better) than others.
    The Hi-Tech Grease and Moblie-1 held dirt to them as if they were honey
    The Brownells friction defense had the next worst amount of dirt.
    The Weapon Shield, FP-10, and Litium grease were surprisingly clean!
    They held dirt/debirs but it was a very light coating compared to the Mobile-1 which looked like it was covered in honey and dropped in a red ant pile.
    I guess this helps explain Mobile-1's cling-to-bolt-factor that I've heretofore found desireable.

    I wanted to remove as much as the dirt as possible so I made a lukewarm salt water solution and poured it gently over the panle sections to rise the dirt away and left it to air dry.
    That's all I have to report so far and I suspect it'll be a while before I have any results worth mentioning.
    My camera has been crapping out lately so I didn't bother to take pics of the initial setup but as things devlop...or after I call the test to an end...I'll try to post pics of the results
    Thanks
    JP
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    George,
    I noticed that there is a small amount brownish sediment in the sample of Weapon Shield you sent which appears regardless of whether I shake it up or not.
    I don't know if this is normal or not but just wanted to report about it.
    Thanks
    Last edited by J.P.; 03-08-09 at 13:55.

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    Testing Testing 1 2 3

    Heya JP,
    Very well done and interesting.
    Let me address a couple issues you may or may not be aware of.
    First..
    This is one reason (dirt and debris) I have always been against grease vs. oil.
    Grease is a dust/dirt magnet, HOWEVER, our Weapon Shield #1 Lithium Complex EP Grease will beat all the others when it comes to dirt and debris accumulation. We sould have it all ready by the end of this week.
    Second..
    If you want to comparatively test greases vs oils for corrosion resistance, then really, you should separate the 2 into the 2 groups, as grease will always outperform oils with their tenacity to cling to surfaces and resist moisture and water which cuts off oxidation more aggressively. However, the drawbacks and limitations of grease dont allow us to use it as universally as oil. Cold plays a huge part in grease usage, as the colder it gets, the thicker it gets and this is not desireable as it will cause functional failures in slides and actions, creating failures to feed and extract. Below freezing, grease becomes useless, as its rheology and thixotropy go off the scale.
    That little bit of cloudiness in the bottm of the oiler is not consistent with our products but was found intermittently in some of the oilers themselves, and is more like an ultrafine polymer dust that is found in a very few of the oiler containers themselves. You can't see it in the bottle until WS is added and it sits in storage a while. We've tested it and contacted the oiler supplier as well and found it to be no problem at all. It doesnt occur anymore but until we're through this batch of oiler containers there will be an occasional one here and there. No biggie tho.
    Best regards,
    George
    Last edited by gcfennell; 03-08-09 at 16:04.
    George C. Fennell
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    Steel Shield Technologies, Inc.- Weapon Shield
    www.steelshieldtech.com
    www.weaponshield.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcfennell View Post
    If you want to comparatively test greases vs oils for corrosion resistance, then really, you should separate the 2 into the 2 groups, as grease will always outperform oils with their tenacity to cling to surfaces and resist moisture and water which cuts off oxidation more aggressively.
    Right. I wasn't intending to compare them directly...I just had room for them so I included 'em in the tset.
    Like I said, the White Lithium grease didn't hold as much dirt as I would have thought...it was remarkably clean.
    The FP-10 and Weapon Shield held the least dirt.

    Thanks for addressing the cloudiness issue.

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