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I recently got a nice field-size lube container; fortunately it came pre-filled with Slip2000, so I don't have to try motor oil.![]()
If, like me, one is married or similarly yoked, I recommend not leaving a 10W-30 filled Vagisil tube around the house.![]()
Like many, I have been a Break-Free CLP user, and found it adequate (a very subjective term). Through forums like this, folks like Pat have shared their experience with lubes that should provide a step up from "adequate." With use, I'm looking forward to the benefits of Slip2000.
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Roger Dport, understood. However, my time is kinda' tight, and am looking for ways to make things easier, not more difficult. I am satisfied with both the Slip 200 and Machine Gunners lube, which already come in appropriate sized containers. If i believed that something else was denonstrably better, i might consider spending so much more time- but not right now.
Dr Mark- agree completely with all!!!![]()
FWIW, that is real Vagisil in my bottles. Good for hot brass burns, whining and dry guns....
This is very true. I just took a bottle of Miltech to 5 departmental M16 A1 's that were left completely dry and stored in cases in vehicle trunks. There was a good deal of surface rust on the barrels, flash hiders. No lube on the bolt, carrier.
My deprtment assigns carbines to the patrol vehicles. If you drive the same squad every day you get the same rifle. The probem with shared weapons is that no one is held accountable for their maintenance or lack of.
I'm still thinking I need to get around to finding myself an ultrasonic. I bet it'd do wonders on the bolt/carrier assembly.
Rob,
I have access to an ultrasonic cleaner at the Armory at work. It is good, but you have to clean it as good as you can by hand first. I like the ultra sonic oil bath, that you use after the cleaning cycle. It Vibrates this really thin oil into the parts. After that you take it out let it air dry and then RE_lube and re assemble. It is not a quick process, but it does a good job. Imagine, once a year type clean and you get the picture. Anyone can do about the same level of clean with Carbon cutter/ 725 some proper tools amd clean rags.
If you want to get the gun good and dirty, like 1,000 plus rounds on it then we can dump it in the tank and you can see for yourself.
Jack
You're welcome!
As far as "CLP" goes ... not all of them are the same. The latest military specs for CLP (which you can get from Royco) do not have any of the teflon or other stuff that separates from the carrier(s) like you get with Breakfree CLP and some others when you let them sit for a long time. It's (mil-spec CLP) also really thin and you probably need to keep adding it a lot more frequently.
Other products that are also CLPs work better as lubes. FP-10 is one and there are a lot of others. Some work better/longer than others. Obviously you can't go wrong with the Slip2000, as the testimony here illustrates.
I used to use a non-CLP-type liquid lube on my ARs (TW25B oil and TetraLube, which are very similar products). The guns functioned just as well with that stuff, but for some reason I started using FP-10 and it works too. I've done three day carbine classes with both kinds of lubes without cleaning or adding lube (starting dripping wet) without problems just to see if I could. That was, of course, contrary to the instructors' recommendations, so since I proved it to myself, I now follow the "rules." I add lube at least at the end of every day, and more if it's a high volume day or if the gun gets really hot from a lot of rapid fire.
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