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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat_Rogers View Post
    The problem with engine lube etc is that it comes in one quart cans and not in containers that can be easily used in the field.
    If what you do is shoot on a square range while seated at a table and such, no problem. It is for others.
    There are ways around this. Smaller containers can be purchased to hold the lube, suitable for field use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dport View Post
    There are ways around this. Smaller containers can be purchased to hold the lube, suitable for field use.
    Yup.

    You can buy a hypodermic needle and use it to extract the contents of a Vagisil tube and then inject 10W-30 into the tube.

    Viola! Lube AND a conversation starter on the range, all in one convenient package!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dport View Post
    There are ways around this. Smaller containers can be purchased to hold the lube, suitable for field use.
    I recently got a nice field-size lube container; fortunately it came pre-filled with Slip2000, so I don't have to try motor oil.

    Quote Originally Posted by John_Wayne777 View Post
    You can buy a hypodermic needle and use it to extract the contents of a Vagisil tube and then inject 10W-30 into the tube.
    If, like me, one is married or similarly yoked, I recommend not leaving a 10W-30 filled Vagisil tube around the house.


    Like many, I have been a Break-Free CLP user, and found it adequate (a very subjective term). Through forums like this, folks like Pat have shared their experience with lubes that should provide a step up from "adequate." With use, I'm looking forward to the benefits of Slip2000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Wayne777 View Post
    Yup.

    You can buy a hypodermic needle and use it to extract the contents of a Vagisil tube and then inject 10W-30 into the tube.

    Viola! Lube AND a conversation starter on the range, all in one convenient package!
    Or one can simply take an empty bottle of some other lube, hose its inside with solvent, tape to it a label stating "Mobil 1 5W-30" , and refill.

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    Roger Dport, understood. However, my time is kinda' tight, and am looking for ways to make things easier, not more difficult. I am satisfied with both the Slip 200 and Machine Gunners lube, which already come in appropriate sized containers. If i believed that something else was denonstrably better, i might consider spending so much more time- but not right now.

    Dr Mark- agree completely with all!!!

    FWIW, that is real Vagisil in my bottles. Good for hot brass burns, whining and dry guns....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat_Rogers View Post
    I believe they market it as LCP
    Same issue. I use it as a Lube. I use the 725 as a cleaner.

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    This is very true. I just took a bottle of Miltech to 5 departmental M16 A1 's that were left completely dry and stored in cases in vehicle trunks. There was a good deal of surface rust on the barrels, flash hiders. No lube on the bolt, carrier.

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    I'm still thinking I need to get around to finding myself an ultrasonic. I bet it'd do wonders on the bolt/carrier assembly.

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    Rob,
    I have access to an ultrasonic cleaner at the Armory at work. It is good, but you have to clean it as good as you can by hand first. I like the ultra sonic oil bath, that you use after the cleaning cycle. It Vibrates this really thin oil into the parts. After that you take it out let it air dry and then RE_lube and re assemble. It is not a quick process, but it does a good job. Imagine, once a year type clean and you get the picture. Anyone can do about the same level of clean with Carbon cutter/ 725 some proper tools amd clean rags.
    If you want to get the gun good and dirty, like 1,000 plus rounds on it then we can dump it in the tank and you can see for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackinfl View Post
    If you want to get the gun good and dirty, like 1,000 plus rounds on it then we can dump it in the tank and you can see for yourself.
    Jack
    That's my normal cleaning cycle for all my guns!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunfixr View Post
    Thanks, Rhino. I'm going to check those out.
    You're welcome!

    As far as "CLP" goes ... not all of them are the same. The latest military specs for CLP (which you can get from Royco) do not have any of the teflon or other stuff that separates from the carrier(s) like you get with Breakfree CLP and some others when you let them sit for a long time. It's (mil-spec CLP) also really thin and you probably need to keep adding it a lot more frequently.

    Other products that are also CLPs work better as lubes. FP-10 is one and there are a lot of others. Some work better/longer than others. Obviously you can't go wrong with the Slip2000, as the testimony here illustrates.

    I used to use a non-CLP-type liquid lube on my ARs (TW25B oil and TetraLube, which are very similar products). The guns functioned just as well with that stuff, but for some reason I started using FP-10 and it works too. I've done three day carbine classes with both kinds of lubes without cleaning or adding lube (starting dripping wet) without problems just to see if I could. That was, of course, contrary to the instructors' recommendations, so since I proved it to myself, I now follow the "rules." I add lube at least at the end of every day, and more if it's a high volume day or if the gun gets really hot from a lot of rapid fire.

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