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    Draco as an SBR?

    I'm still pretty new to the AK world.

    I picked up an SGL-21 around this time last year and really enjoy it and learning to use the AK platform. I have been lusting after adding a 7.62x39 Krink style AK SBR to my collection but the pickins in this particular flavor of AK seem pretty slim.

    I have seen several Draco pistols that have been converted to SBRs but I know next to nothing about them other than they are imported by Century. I know Henderson Defense has a "Certified" Draco that they supposedly check over before the sale and for the $$$ it seems like a reasonable way to get what I'm looking for.

    Can any of the more AK knowledgeable members here (Templar, etc) shed anymore light on this weapon, it's manufacture, reliability, and suitability in an SBR role?

    Thansk!

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    Im no expert but I do know a little.....I believe they use an unfinished underfolder trunnion, so take that into consideration when doing SBR work. Also, unlike the WASR's, the Draco is genuine Romanian, since it doesnt fall into the ATF (or whoever makes the rules) regulations for "American parts" and such. So in a sense, the Draco is gonna be the more 'authentic' of the Romanian guns.

    As far as I know they are relatively easy to SBR, and lots of people do it. Id venture to guess its the cheapest way to get into the SBR game at this time. I'll probably pick one up soon, at 350ish dollars, they cant be beat

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    They actually covered this in SAR this month. I think they went with an ACE folding stock.
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    Any other experiences or opinions on the Draco?

    POS or inexpensive and reliable means to a 7.62x39 AK SBR?

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    I've been researching the hell out of these things for the past month or so.

    From what I'm reading, Draco's are a great deal and an easy means to an SBR down the road, if you choose to go that route. I've also read about canted FSB's, and some other common problems associated with lower end AK's. Luckily, it also seems that Century is very good about replacing them. (Also, like lloyd said, Century only imports these, as they aren't subject to 922r. 922r is the only reason Century messes with the AK rifles they import, and sometimes muck up) I know some people hear "Century" and run in the other direction. But being that it's an AK........if it runs, it'll most likely run like a raped ape and give you many years of enjoyment and reliability.

    Most people opt to go with an Ace stock adapter, like Steyr mentioned, when putting a stock on it. You can drill/tap right into the rear trunnion and you have a good amount of choices of stocks to use.


    That's the meat and potatoes of what I've found on the Draco since I started researching them. Now it's only matter of me getting the $375 flat for my FFL to order me one. I can't wait.



    This is my inspiration:










    That thing makes me drool. Funny thing is.......that Ultimak lower tri-rail retails for almost as much as a Draco itself!

    (That's not mine. It's a guy named "Gardner" on Arfcom)

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    MIAD on AK? How is that done, I simply MUST know!

    Seriously, the #1 thing holding me back on an AK was the tiny grips.

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    ACE sells an adapter for mounting AR grips on an AK (its the one used in the picture above). Personally, I would not do that, because I have read a few threads about how these adapters are prone to breaking.

    There are several great aftermarket grips available for the AK (Hogue, MD Arms, Ergo, US Palm, etc.) and who knows, maybe someday Magpul will throw their hat into this market.

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    I would be much more comfortable in taking a Draco pistol up to being an SBR than taking a rifle down to being one.

    It if works as a pistol, then all you are doing is adding a buttstock.
    If it works as a rifle, then you don't know if it's going to work as an SBR until you actually try it, after having the barrel done and more expensive parts changed out.
    Last edited by 4thPointOfContact; 10-18-10 at 18:19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thPointOfContact View Post
    I would be much more comfortable in taking a Draco pistol up to being an SBR than taking a rifle down to being one.

    It if works as a pistol, then all you are doing is adding a buttstock.
    If it works as a rifle, then you don't know if it's going to work as an SBR until you actually try it, after having the barrel done and more expensive parts changed out.
    Excellent point. I just wanted to make sure it actually worked as a pistol!

    Sounds like it shouldn't be too bad since Century isn't monkeying around with them.

    I've heard of canted sights but it seems they have been easily repaired/replaced. They do have a chrome lined barrel so that's a positive.

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    There is also the champion pistol which is basically the same gun in .223.

    Any reports on how the ace stock holds up under hard use?

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