Draco as an SBR?

[Iraqgunz]

I highly recommend reading the new article in SAR. Especially pay attention to the things that Red Jacket had to do to make it safe and probably functionally operable.

[RD62]

Thanks Iraqgunz, I'll have to see if I can find a copy locally and check out the article.

This is the kind of info I've been looking for.

If I get one I'l be staying with 7.62x39 for ammo/mag commonality with my other AK.

I have also heard good things so far about the ACE Stock and have been considering one for my SGL as well as the Draco if and when I get one.

[TOrrock]

Believe it or not....the Draco is a semi auto version of a weapon that the Romanian police have in their inventory.

These pics were taken during the 2006 bird flu scare in Romania.

[RD62]

Believe it or not....the Draco is a semi auto version of a weapon that the Romanian police have in their inventory.

These pics were taken during the 2006 bird flu scare in Romania.

Thanks Templar!

I was hoping you might drop in here....

So in your experience do you feel these are acceptable for real use and conversion to an SBR, the pictures you posted would seem to lend some credence to this, or do you think I should drive-on and look for another means to a 7.62x39 AK SBR?

[TOrrock]

Thanks Templar!

I was hoping you might drop in here....

So in your experience do you feel these are acceptable for real use and conversion to an SBR, the pictures you posted would seem to lend some credence to this, or do you think I should drive-on and look for another means to a 7.62x39 AK SBR?

I think that they're the best way to get a compact SBR AKM variant without breaking the bank.

The Romanian QC isn't as high as it should be, but if you get a good one, you're set. If you don't, Century should swap it out for you.


The carbine version has been in Romanian military use since the late 1980's.

From the 1989 Revolution:

[Iraqgunz]

The article in SAR stated that it was a good platform to do so. But, they did have to work it over a little.

There was mention of issues with the FCG. They sent their gun out to Red Jacket to be professionally worked over.

Thanks Templar!

I was hoping you might drop in here....

So in your experience do you feel these are acceptable for real use and conversion to an SBR, the pictures you posted would seem to lend some credence to this, or do you think I should drive-on and look for another means to a 7.62x39 AK SBR?

[ChocLab]

MIAD on AK? How is that done, I simply MUST know!

Seriously, the #1 thing holding me back on an AK was the tiny grips.

I think the one in the pic has an AR grip adapter which sell for $6.

http://riflestocks.com/catalog/produ...roducts_id=326

I had to put one on my AK for one of those weird CA compliant grips. Worked ok so far as range shooting.

[Mac5.56]

Can anyone lead me to posts regarding failures with the grip adaptor? I hate my AK grip, but I don't want to replace it with something that is going to fail. I've been looking at the US Palm grip lately, but wouldn't mind an AR grip on the rifle.

[22_Shooter]

MIAD on AK? How is that done, I simply MUST know!

Seriously, the #1 thing holding me back on an AK was the tiny grips.

As was pointed out, it's an Ace adapter. I hadn't heard about the failures, so I'd be interested in some links too. I have no personal experience with them, but it seems like the only option to easily mount an AR grip.

But I'll second what doodi1 said; there are plenty of aftermarket AK grips, if the standard AK grip is too small. (I agree 100% on that. Can't stand them. Once I bought a factory Izhmash pistol grip, I was hooked. MD Arms makes a US made clone, that's actually supposed to be stronger than the factory Russian original. They're perfect for those looking for thicker grip, and they're cheap)

[ChocLab]

Believe it or not....the Draco is a semi auto version of a weapon that the Romanian police have in their inventory.

These pics were taken during the 2006 bird flu scare in Romania.

Looking at the pics again, why would an agency in Romania choose to run without a folding stock and a just a forward grip?

The reason that I ask that some states SBRs are a no go but there are ways to do AOWs.

I have never been a fan of AK or AR pistols, but how much better or to what degree does having the forward grip on a pistol AK increase its effectiveness, if any on a rifle caliber type weapon.