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Thread: Is this now the best all around defensive .223 round?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Right. I don't think people understand how much a bullet can change course after it goes through something like glass.



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    So how much does it change and how do you compensate?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redhat View Post
    So how much does it change and how do you compensate?

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    Bonded core bullets tend to retain much of their jacket and weight, consequently they will usually have less deflection after passing through glass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fyrelt View Post
    thanks grant for the info on the speer gold dot,i have a 30 round mag loaded with the le 5.56 and the le 223 gold dot,witch one do you recomemd,i am shooting a bcm with a 14.5 barrel.
    They're the same projectile, with the 5.56 loaded to a slightly higher velocity, (50 fps). The ones I've seen shot in gelatin were pretty consistent, regardless of velocity, so I would guess the 5.56's edge would be a little more reach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake'sDad View Post
    They're the same projectile, with the 5.56 loaded to a slightly higher velocity, (50 fps). The ones I've seen shot in gelatin were pretty consistent, regardless of velocity, so I would guess the 5.56's edge would be a little more reach.
    Right, but there maybe some loss in accuracy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Right, but there maybe some loss in accuracy.



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    Ahhhh... didn't think of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake'sDad View Post
    Bonded core bullets tend to retain much of their jacket and weight, consequently they will usually have less deflection after passing through glass.
    Thanks

    How about the second part of my question which was how do you compensate for the deflection?

    Thanks again
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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    The Winchester 64gr Ranger is an excellent round. Just one issue. It is generally VERY hard to get.


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    I've looked all over and can't find the Speer 64gr either. Does anyone have a source that a civilian can purchase from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watrdawg View Post
    I've looked all over and can't find the Speer 64gr either. Does anyone have a source that a civilian can purchase from?
    How hard did you look?

    http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...tion&key=24448



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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Right, but there maybe some loss in accuracy.

    Just curious, but what specifically are you basing this assessment on?
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