CNBC special on Remington 700

[montanadave]

I saw the teaser for this investigative report this AM. Before anyone goes off on me about CNBC, media anti-gun bias, etc., I'm only posting this because I imagine some folks might find it of interest. The investigative report apparently centers on product liability issues related to alleged trigger malfunctions with the Model 700 and the failure of Remington (in the eyes of those making the allegations) to adequately respond to the issue.

The special is scheduled to air Wednesday evening (October 20). Here's a link to the blurb on CNBC's website:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/39554936/

[dbrowne1]

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[Artos]

The older 700's (my 722 is still the same way) had to have the safety on fire to open the bolt...most of the disasters were due to the nut behind the butt & usually having a gloved finger inside the trigger guard when throwing the safety to clear the gun.

Most 700 triggers got worked over too & it is very easy to mess up the sear engaugement.

I have not heard of any recent problems...fact is if you don't sweep your hunting partners and mind your muzzle there would be no story.

Thank you for the heads up as this will be worth following.

[TY44934]

NIB 700s going off when the bolt was closed was not unheard of in the late 1990s; no idea about current production guns.

M24s and M40 are extensively re-worked by service gunsmiths (not simple armorers) if that tells you anything. In other words, the Remington "factory specification" for M24s & M40s is not relied upon for weapons actually issued to qualified soldiers.

[mr_smiles]

Not to be a cold asshole, but this comes down to gun safety, not faulty gear. If a rifle goes bang on it's own and not pointed at somebody, chances are nobody will get the bad end of the rifle.

[Alric]

Not to be a cold asshole, but this comes down to gun safety, not faulty gear. If a rifle goes bang on it's own and not pointed at somebody, chances are nobody will get the bad end of the rifle.

A rifle should not fire unless the trigger is pressed. A flaw in the gun (if present) shouldn't be dismissed just because one of the rules could mitigate its damage.

[austinN4]

This story is starting to remind me of the Toyota drivers with "unintended acceleration."

It is hard to believe they are going to do a whole hour on it.

[mr_smiles]

A rifle should not fire unless the trigger is pressed. A flaw in the gun (if present) shouldn't be dismissed just because one of the rules could mitigate its damage.

Not dismissing the failures, just pointing out the failures of the owners.

If you gun goes bang with out you pulling the trigger, the only consequence should be colorful words.

[Mjolnir]

Not dismissing the failures, just pointing out the failures of the owners.

If you gun goes bang with out you pulling the trigger, the only consequence should be colorful words.

That depends. Keep in mind how far a rifle cartridge fires the projectile... You can follow the rules, "I didn't point it at anything (that I could see)" and still end up destroying something or someone that was not intended to be destroyed.

We're splitting hairs a bit but there is ZERO margin for error with a long gun. YOu can survive a hit with a pistol (not that you'd wish that) but you're more likely to bleed out before you get medical attention with a rifle or carbine.

[Bobert0989]

That depends. Keep in mind how far a rifle cartridge fires the projectile... You can follow the rules, "I didn't point it at anything (that I could see)" and still end up destroying something or someone that was not intended to be destroyed.

The "didn't see it" line here reminded me of the tragic story several years ago here that involved an infant that was shot through the wall of his parents' trailer by a hunter several hundred feet away, that had no idea the trailer was even there. He was completely unaware that he had even shot in the direction of someone's home, but the path of the bullet placed it perfectly into the living room, killing the child.

Found article: Hunter shot 16-month old girl in chest from 400 feet away with .30 rifle in her GRANDPARENTS' mobile home. Ruled 2nd Degree Manslaughter http://www.imperfectparent.com/topic...-stray-bullet/