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    The New Raven Concealment Info/News Thread

    Our existing thread has served it’s purpose, but it has become almost too large to manage anymore. We’d like to make our new announcement in a fresh thread, and close the old one to save on forum bandwidth as well as provide an easier thread for our customers to read.

    Since moving to our new facility in May, we have been steadily building our infrastructure and including new manufacturing technologies to improve our products. We have made significant investments in capital equipment and tooling that will not only make our holsters better, but will also begin to reduce our production times.

    It has been very difficult to contain our excitement and keep this secret these past several months as we ramped up, but it was necessary for us to be tight-lipped due to the ever-growing numbers of “competitors” who have shamelessly attempted to copy every aspect of our business.

    And so, after many months of development and testing, we are excited to begin rolling out our new modular hardware for the Phantom and Phantom LC holsters.

    Standard OWB Belt Loops
    These are our standard OWB belt loops that come with every Phantom holster or Modular Carrier. We have recently upgraded our belt loops. They are now made from a nearly unbreakable high-strength polymer. You can order these as spares, upgrades to your current gear, or in a different belt size. Note, 2" loops are still made from Kydex.



    IWB Soft Loops
    RCS is pleased to introduce our own proprietary soft loop. This new loop is designed to address some shortcomings of other loops on the market today.

    These loops are made from a U.S. made, high-tech laminate with a woven Kevlar core and super tough polymer over-mold. They will not stretch and even abrasive nylon webbing belts will not wear them out easily. The rubber overmold provides plenty of grip on the belt to prevent shifting during use. We are using mil-spec Pull the Dot directional snaps and our own proprietary stainless steel hardware that we melonite to ensure years of maintenance free use.

    These loops are adjustable and will fit most belts 1.25", 1.5", and 1.75" wide. They come with all needed hardware to mount them directly to our Phantom series holsters or Modular Carriers. Please note, the snaps on these loops can be very tight when you first get them. If you have difficulty unsnapping them, use a flat blade screw driver or similar tool. Insert it between the male and female snap heads on the outside of the loop and twist to open them. After several times opening and closing, they will loosen up for you.

    Please note- Soft loops will not be ready to ship until November 14th, 2010.



    IWB Tuckable Soft Loops
    RCS is please to introduce our new and improved Tuckable Soft Loops. These loops utilize our new, nearly unbreakable, polymer struts and our improved Soft Loops.

    This option will mount in various position on your Phantom holster or Modular carrier to allow you to customize your ride and cant. You can mount them at two points or one point to allow them to pivot. They will also allow you to tuck your cover garment in over the weapon for maximum concealment. You can link these loops to our Offset Wings for an even slimmer tuckable carry rig. This option will mount with the included hardware that comes with your holster or carrier. We do have spare hardware kits available. As always, we recommend that once you find a configuration you like, apply some non-permanent thread locking product to the screws to prevent them from backing out during use and check your gear regularly.

    Please note, we do not recommend you carry your holster with the mouth of the holster below the belt line. While it may make the weapon easier to conceal, you might experience draw and retention issues. Reholstering is also a safety concern when the pants are blocking the open mouth of the holster. You are also compromising your ability to get a full firing grip on the weapon for an efficient presentation during a defensive encounter.

    Please note- Soft loops will not be ready to ship until November 14th, 2010.



    IWB Tuckable C Hooks
    C-hooks provide an excellent balance of low profile and support. They present a very small visual clip on the belt, but fully transmit the load of the holster to the belt for support. The upper hook is slightly shorter than the lower to allow some belts to "snap" into place in the hook. Be aware that some thick or stiff belts will need to be threaded through the hook.

    This option will mount in various position on your Phantom holster or Modular carrier to allow you to customize your ride and cant. You can mount them at two points or one point to allow them to pivot. They will also allow you to tuck your cover garment in over the weapon for maximum concealment. You can link these loops to our Offset Wings for an even slimmer tuckable carry rig. This option will mount with the included hardware that comes with your holster or carrier. We do have spare hardware kits available. As always, we recommend that once you find a configuration you like, apply some non-permanent thread locking product to the screws to prevent them from backing out during use and check your gear regularly.

    Please note, we do not recommend you carry your holster with the mouth of the holster below the belt line. While it may make the weapon easier to conceal, you might experience draw and retention issues. Reholstering is also a safety concern when the pants are blocking the open mouth of the holster. You are also compromising your ability to get a full firing grip on the weapon for an efficient presentation during a defensive encounter.



    IWB Tuckable J Hooks
    J-hooks are a very low profile IWB option for the Phantom holsters and Modular carriers. Please be aware that J-hooks only prevent the holster from coming out with the weapon during the draw. They do not transmit any load to the belt. This means the holster will be supported only by the inward tension of the belt and the waistband of your pants. Please note, the picture is for display purposes only, we do not recommend J-hooks for larger, heavier weapons.

    This option will mount in various position on your Phantom holster or Modular carrier to allow you to customize your ride and cant. You can mount them at two points or one point to allow them to pivot. They will also allow you to tuck your cover garment in over the weapon for maximum concealment. You can link these loops to our Offset Wings for an even slimmer tuckable carry rig. This option will mount with the included hardware that comes with your holster or carrier. We do have spare hardware kits available. As always, we recommend that once you find a configuration you like, apply some non-permanent thread locking product to the screws to prevent them from backing out during use and check your gear regularly.

    Please note, we do not recommend you carry your holster with the mouth of the holster below the belt line. While it may make the weapon easier to conceal, you might experience draw and retention issues. Reholstering is also a safety concern when the pants are blocking the open mouth of the holster. You are also compromising your ability to get a full firing grip on the weapon for an efficient presentation during a defensive encounter.



    IWB Offset Wing
    This wing can be used with any of our tuckable IWB options. The wing is made of a nearly unbreakable polymer. It is flexible to allow it to conform to your body, but it still retains some rigidity for structural support and ease of use. By mating this wing to an IWB Tuckable option, it will spread out the load on the belt, make the system thinner, and allow easier tucking of the cover garment.

    We have designed these to be mountable in several different positions on the holster body. You can also choose to mount the tuckable option with one or two screws to allow it to swivel or not. This will allow you to try many different ride heights and cant options to tailor the holster to fit your specific needs. All needed hardware is included with the wings. As with all our hardware, we recommend that once you find a set up that you like, use some non-permanent thread locking product on your screws to help keep them from backing out. Be sure to check you gear regularly.

    Please note, we do not recommend you carry your holster with the mouth of the holster below the belt line. While it may make the weapon easier to conceal, you may experience draw and retention issues. Reholstering is also a safety concern when the pants are blocking the open mouth of the holster. You are also compromising your ability to get a full firing grip on the weapon for an efficient presentation during a defensive encounter.
    IWB loop or hook is NOT included. This is only the offset wing adaptor and mounting hardware.



    Another change you might notice is that we have deleted some of our less popular Eclipse modular accessories from the online storefront at www.themalabarfront.com. This was done to streamline the product line, thereby decreasing delivery times.

    And lastly, a few random shots:

    One of the machines we use to produce the new belt loops:



    Jay and Dotson work to build items and check retention:





    Please stay tuned! This is on the first of many new developments coming from RCS. We hope to make a similar post within the next two weeks. As always, we appreciate your business!
    Last edited by TomF; 10-20-10 at 17:35.
    The opinions posted above are my own and do not represent any current or former employer.

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    So will everything made from here forward have the new clips? My order is in the queue and won't be ready until late Nov. I assume I will get the new ones, right? I want.

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    nice!

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    Yes, everything going out the door as of today has the new hardware, save for the Soft Loops which will begin shipping on November 14th.
    The opinions posted above are my own and do not represent any current or former employer.

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    Just wanted to show off my new loops. The guys at Raven were kind enough to surprise me with the new stuff even though I ordered expecting the old stuff. They just arrived today.

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    Will this mean faster production times? Only thing that has kept me from ordering your fine product is the wait time. Even a two week lead time would be great.

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    Awesome news Tom. Hopefully in time, you'll be able to get the delivery time down to under a month or so.
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    I got the chance to run these new loops in MD Carbine II, Tom, you guys make a fine bit of kit. Congrats!
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    Congratulations! Very exciting to follow the new developments. More business coming your way soon

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    Congrats, on all of the new stuff, and thanks for letting us know about it and posting the pics.
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