Thinking of getting an ACOG, interested in your thoughts

[M4Guru]

I like the 3X Compacts like Rob said, but for the money they cost I'd pony up a little more for a variable power scope. Nightforce, Leupold, and Trijicon make variable power scopes that come in +/- $150 of the average ACOG. For the same price as a TA31F you can get the S&B Zenith 1.1-4x24, which I found out today is the same thing as the new Short Dot but without NV settings or locking BDC turrets. I like the versatility of the variable power scopes. I have used ACOGs for nearly 8 years now, and if you have your heart set on one they are great scopes. I used a DR/TAO1NSN combo on ol' "Tank" here until a got a Short Dot from Uncle Sam.

[militarymoron]

larue 'poorboy' special - 2.5x hensoldt magnifier behind the aimpoint in the LT pivot mount - damn good value for the price - less than $200 for magnifier and mount:
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[rob_s]

The one thing to bear in mind both with the variables and the various magnifiers is the significant increase in weight over a Compact ACOG. It's one of the reasons I've never branched off into those realms.

[M4Guru]

Some of them are not too bad, IE the Leupold, but the S&B and USO (which I think is a PoS anyway) is a beast for sure. The mini-ACOG definitely has the upper hand in weight and real estate, and if you put a mini-red dot on it it's a pretty good compromise.

[Colt6920]

For the same price as a TA31F you can get the S&B Zenith 1.1-4x24, which I found out today is the same thing as the new Short Dot but without NV settings or locking BDC turrets.

May want to make sure the brightness levels are as high as the CQB model, the 2 #7 reticle models I went through[one was marked short dot the other was not but they were ordered as short dots] did not have daylight visible red dots.There seems to be a difference in brightness levels between certain models.

[M4Guru]

The whole concept of the Zenith with the Flash Dot is to have 11 usable daylight settings, so I'd imagine it would be at least as bright as the settings on my Short Dot with only 6 visible settings and 6 NV settings.

[SGB]

I just recently switched over from an Aimpoint ML2 to a TA01B ACOG on my AR10 but haven't got any trigger time on it yet.

[CPR]

I'm using a TA01 with the Trijicon Red Dot and winged Trijicon mount. It seems like a decent compromise if you're dead-set on an ACOG. I'm a little concerned about the durability of the ring mounted to the ACOG (my TA01 isn't an NSN with the built in holes). Anyone else running this setup?

[toddackerman]

I had a compact ACOG for 2 years and liked it very much for situations that required magnification out ot 300 yds. It was bullet proof and I had zero issues with it.

I later started tinkering with Red Dot scopes and settled on an EOTech (Rev. F) 552 for speed and easier target acquisition at CQB distances out to 50 yds or so. It definitiely is a little quicker than any magnified optic I've tried including Leupold and S&B.

If you can have both, I would opt for the ACOG (either compact or full size depending on your preference) and a Red Dot (either Aimpoint or EOTech) and use what the mission calls for.

That being said, I have no problems placing shots at 200 yds. with my EOTech, and my eyes are too old to try anything farther these days. I also have a Leupold Scout Scope on a Remington 700 Scout Rifle that is pretty darn quick, and great for 200 yard shots, but I don't think it would be appropriate for an AR15 application.

Hope this helps, and it's just ,my opinion.

[olds442tyguy]

I haven't tried the compact lower magnification models, but I've tried the 3.5X and 4X full sizes.

I personally couldn't think of any scenario where I would want an ACOG. They're slow and awkward at close ranges, and for mid and long ranges there are much more efficient options. I'd even go as far as to call the TA01 the most worthless "tactical" optic I've ever laid my hands on.

A lot of people claim the ACOG is a good do all optic. I'd throw 100 ACOG's in the trash for a TR21-R Accupoint. I think 1-4X variable optics blow the ACOG's out of the water for both short range and long range shots.

Their quality is great, they're tougher than I'll ever know, but that's just my opinion on their practicality (with my limited experience).