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    After reviewing comments in the linked thread, I don't feel worthy to even post here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevermiss View Post
    After reviewing comments in the linked thread, I don't feel worthy to even post here.
    Dont worry, this happens all the time to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .45fmjoe View Post
    I can claim a lot of shit, too. That doesn't mean it's the truth. Stick with what works, Carpenter 158. Buy BCM BCGs for those DPMS rifles, leave the Colts alone until they break.
    I agree that they are just "claims" and not to be trusted. That's why I asked the question.

    As for waiting for the Colt bolts to break, I'm not a fan of that idea. Bolts have a service life and can break at the most inopportune times...

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    Quote Originally Posted by THCDDM4 View Post
    AFAICT:
    9310 is inferior in strenght to carpenter 158.

    9310 is easier to source in smaller quantities, and cheaper.

    I would just go the BCM, DD, or LMT route, stronger steel, less expensive; they are of the highest quality.

    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...ht=9310&page=2

    Skip out on the "high Performance" bolt. You can just about get 2 bolts for every 1 of those you buy.
    Thanks for the link. Good reading and alot of info. I'd still like to see a heads up test for a true comparison but for now we'll stick with standard bolts.

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    So this Super Bolt has potentially better geometry, yet is made from inferior steel. One step forward, one step back.

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    Better geometry, potentially inferior steel. Unless someone gets 30 normal USGI bolts, 30 'enhanced' bolts, 30 bolts using traditional geometry but 9130, and 30 bolts using traditional materials but new geometry, and shoots the living piss out of all of them in an equal and systematic fashion, we'll never really know for sure.


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    I think maybe the most important thing here is that the body is larger around the cam pin hole. I've been trying to get commercial bolt manufacturers to do that for a couple years. They are so thin there -- about .097-- that the 17% increase is huge. It's kinda like in engines-- the quickest way to more horselpower is more cubic inches. Well here, 17% more steel is a big deal. They didn't do it exactly the way I envisioned it but it would be every bit as effective, strength-wise. I need to try one of these out.
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    Tagging this one. Sounds very interesting.
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    There's always the LMT Enhanced and the LWRC Advanced; the read on the LWRC is especially interesting.

    I haven't shot either of mine enough to come anywhere near their service lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAC View Post
    Better geometry, potentially inferior steel. Unless someone gets 30 normal USGI bolts, 30 'enhanced' bolts, 30 bolts using traditional geometry but 9130, and 30 bolts using traditional materials but new geometry, and shoots the living piss out of all of them in an equal and systematic fashion, we'll never really know for sure.


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    I would be very interested in this test. The enhanced bolts do tickle the impulse buyer in me; but I need more info on them to spend that much money when I can get a bolt for 1/2 price that is a known performer.

    I would think that 2 bolts would outlast even a "high Performance" bolt meant for high round count, not sure though?
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