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    A year in jail for email about Islam

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad...e-speech-crimes.html

    Obama's Department of [In]Justice and Sharia Prosecutes Infidels for "Hate" Speech Crimes

    And so it begins. This is an outrage. An infidel was prosecuted by Obama's Department of Justice and sent to jail for a year for saying in an email that he would “do WHATEVER it takes to eradicate Islam.” So what? A year in prison? A $3,000 fine?

    We witnessed a traitorous Department of Justice refuse to prosecute the Black Panther party for voter harassment and intimidation with weapons on Election day. Senior DoJ lawyers resigned in protest.

    "Obama has Violated His Oath of Office" in Racist Dept of Justice Decision to Drop New Black Panther Party Voter Intimidation Case and Mandate DOJ Policy: "No Voter Intimidation Cases Will Brought Against Black Defendent Where the Victim is White" (read it at Atlas Shrugs)

    The Department of Justice sponsored a booth at the Muslim Brotherhood front ISNA (Islamic Society of North America) convention underwritten by, among others, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas-linked CAIR.

    Obama's Department of Justice sued a New Jersey county, alleging that it refused to accommodate a Muslim employee's khimar, a religious head covering. The suit seeks monetary damages and also seeks to require Essex County to adopt a policy that accommodates the religious observances and practices of employees.

    Further, Obama's Department of Justice dropped the "charges" against the Muslims who blew up the USS Cole.

    Obama's Department of Justice is still trying to bring the 911 mastermind to New York City for a civilian trial. And these examples are just the tip of the iceberg. The prosecution of Sobolevskiy is by far the worst, and Judge David G. Bernthal, referring to the defendant’s crime as “an act of terror,” is in need of immediate removal. Nuts.

    I do not advocate for violence or ugly email missives, but a year in jail for them? This is something altogether different. The Department of Justice is enforcing sharia and abandoning rule of law.

    Washington - Maryland Man Sentenced To 1 Year For Sending Threatening Email to Illinois Mosque Vosizneias.com (hat tip Nik)

    Washington - Ilya Sobolevskiy, a 25-year-old resident of Maryland, was sentenced today to serve 12 months in prison and to pay a $3,000 fine for violating the civil rights of members of an Urbana, Ill., mosque, announced the Justice Department.

    During a guilty plea hearing in August 2010, Sobolevskiy admitted that he sent an email to a member of the Central Illinois Mosque and Islamic Center (CIMIC), in which he threatened, among other things, that he would “do WHATEVER it takes to eradicate Islam.” Officials at CIMIC reported the threat to the FBI, which referred the case to the department’s Civil Rights Division.

    “One of our most basic rights is the freedom to practice one’s faith in peace,” said Assistant Attorney General Thomas E. Perez of the Civil Rights Division.

    I agree. Tell that to the Coptics, Sikhs, Hindus, Jews, Christians, living under Islamic law.

    Actually our most basic human right is free speech.

    “We have no tolerance for threats of violence fueled by bigotry, and we will aggressively prosecute such actions.”

    “It is a top priority of the FBI to protect the civil rights of the American people. We encourage members of the community to report all allegations of civil rights violations. The FBI will aggressively investigate these matters to ensure that our society remains free,” said Stuart R. McArthur, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI Springfield Office.

    CAIR must be laughing in jihadic glee.

    Federal Magistrate Judge David G. Bernthal, referring to the defendant’s crime as “an act of terror,” gave the defendant the maximum sentence permitted by law.

    This case was investigated by the Springfield, Ill., division of the FBI, and was prosecuted by department Trial Attorney Patricia Sumner.

    So I guess I should turn over my hundreds of "hate" emails. Something tells me that those emailers won't be serving time any time soon.

    Washington Post has it here.

    UPDATE: The last name is Sobolevsky. The offense is "Obstruction Of The Free Exercise Of Religious Beliefs" (U.S.C Sec. 247(a)(2)). The case number is 2:10-cr-20062-DGB.

    Not only was Sobolevsky sentenced to a year in prison, but also a year of supervised release.

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    so freedom of religion trumps freedom of speech now?
    Dont sweat the small stuff.


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    hmm.. i'd like to read the email in its entirety..

    Quote Originally Posted by 500grains View Post
    “It is a top priority of the FBI to protect the civil rights of the American people. We encourage members of the community to report all allegations of civil rights violations. The FBI will aggressively investigate these matters to ensure that our society remains free,” said Stuart R. McArthur, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI Springfield Office.
    ****! all these years, all we had to do was call the FBI about our 2A infringement problems??

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    Only when it pertains to a "certain" religion...... Bashing Christians is still 100% ok by the mid stream media, AFAIK.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt_Overide View Post
    so freedom of religion trumps freedom of speech now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bkb0000 View Post
    ****! all these years, all we had to do was call the FBI about our 2A infringement problems??
    Funny, they stopped returning my calls.

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    Bashing Christians is still 100% ok by the mid stream media, AFAIK.
    Try sending an email to a church informing them you plan to kill them all to stop the spread of Christianity and see how long it takes for some law enforcement agency to show up at your door.

    It's fine to bash any religion based on the merits of that religion or those who employ it (the basis of which 99% of religious bashing takes place), it is not fine to THREATEN those people with violence.

    State and Federal laws are very clear that direct threats are NOT speech, they are assault. If some guy you've never seen before walks up to you and says right to your face "in 3 seconds I'm going to kill you", do you just chalk it up to "free speech, haha!" and keep walking?

    Get ****ing real.

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    They culminated in an email sent May 4, 2008, demanding the mosque shut its doors:

    "Close down the CIMIC [Central Illinois Mosque and Islamic Center] by May 12th, or it will be closed for you. the muslims that attend it are not to be seen in public with their beards or hijabs. tell them to get rid of such things. failure to comply will result in much tribulations for you and muslims in the region. i am not afraid to do whatever it takes to eradicate islam. WHATEVER it takes."

    Mosque officials reported the email to the FBI, which investigated through its Springfield office.


    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...ntenced_to.php

    Department of Justice Press Release

    For Immediate Release
    November 3, 2010 U.S. Department of Justice
    Office of Public Affairs
    (202) 514-2007/TDD (202) 514-1888
    Maryland Man Sentenced for Sending Threatening E-Mail to Illinois Mosque

    WASHINGTON—Ilya Sobolevskiy, a 25-year-old resident of Maryland, was sentenced today to serve 12 months in prison and to pay a $3,000 fine for violating the civil rights of members of an Urbana, Illinois mosque, announced the Justice Department.

    During a guilty plea hearing in August 2010, Sobolevskiy admitted that he sent an e-mail to a member of the Central Illinois Mosque and Islamic Center (CIMIC), in which he threatened, among other things, that he would “do WHATEVER it takes to eradicate Islam.” Officials at CIMIC reported the threat to the FBI, which referred the case to the department’s Civil Rights Division.

    “One of our most basic rights is the freedom to practice one’s faith in peace,” said Assistant Attorney General Thomas E. Perez of the Civil Rights Division. “We have no tolerance for threats of violence fueled by bigotry, and we will aggressively prosecute such actions.”

    “It is a top priority of the FBI to protect the civil rights of the American people. We encourage members of the community to report all allegations of civil rights violations. The FBI will aggressively investigate these matters to ensure that our society remains free,” said Stuart R. McArthur, special agent in charge of the FBI Springfield Office.

    Federal Magistrate Judge David G. Bernthal, referring to the defendant’s crime as “an act of terror,” gave the defendant the maximum sentence permitted by law.

    This case was investigated by the Springfield, Illinois Division of the FBI and was prosecuted by department Trial Attorney Patricia Sumner.

    Press Releases | Springfield Home

    http://springfield.fbi.gov/dojpressr...0/si110310.htm
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    Yeah sending threats isn't protected speech, and its pretty dumb anyways. Easy to trace, does nothing, and gets you in hot water pretty quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoTex View Post
    Try sending an email to a church informing them you plan to kill them all to stop the spread of Christianity and see how long it takes for some law enforcement agency to show up at your door.

    It's fine to bash any religion based on the merits of that religion or those who employ it (the basis of which 99% of religious bashing takes place), it is not fine to THREATEN those people with violence.

    State and Federal laws are very clear that direct threats are NOT speech, they are assault. If some guy you've never seen before walks up to you and says right to your face "in 3 seconds I'm going to kill you", do you just chalk it up to "free speech, haha!" and keep walking?

    Get ****ing real.

    Hey now, lets not let facts and logic get in the way here.

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    I'm well aware of what constitutes assault vs protected speech. Thanks for the explanation, though.

    I was referring to the left wing media's constant attempts to whitewash/pander to anything remotely related to Islam, while having no issue smearing say... the Roman Catholic Church. That's all.

    If the individuals in question did in fact issue threats, I've got no issues with them being prosecuted IAW the law.


    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoTex View Post
    Try sending an email to a church informing them you plan to kill them all to stop the spread of Christianity and see how long it takes for some law enforcement agency to show up at your door.

    It's fine to bash any religion based on the merits of that religion or those who employ it (the basis of which 99% of religious bashing takes place), it is not fine to THREATEN those people with violence.

    State and Federal laws are very clear that direct threats are NOT speech, they are assault. If some guy you've never seen before walks up to you and says right to your face "in 3 seconds I'm going to kill you", do you just chalk it up to "free speech, haha!" and keep walking?

    Get ****ing real.
    Last edited by GermanSynergy; 11-06-10 at 17:01.
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