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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd.K View Post
    Snip-If you will be getting a Noveske upper just get one of our lowers and skip the class 3 dealer. You can send in a Noveske lower to be factory registered when you buy a short upper and the SBR transfers back to you on a F4.
    If I'm reading this correctly I could send my Noveske lower to you then have it transfered back on a form 4? (complete with upper)

    Since were on the subject my current noveske has a pinned vortex, could you unpin it? or would I have to replace the barrel? (possibly the upper, otherwise might be a good excuse to by a new upper)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd.K View Post
    No, he has a stack of regular lowers that can be sold as such. He should but does not have to notify the ATF and have them taken off the registry.
    Ok, I misspoke he has a stack of lowers that he has submitted paperwork on, and cannot sell them as Title II firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCK View Post
    Ok, I misspoke he has a stack of lowers that he has submitted paperwork on, and cannot sell them as Title II firearms.

    Chris
    If he registered them can he build them and sell them as complete SBR's?
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    If you buy an upper with short barrel you will be able to send in a Noveske lower. It needs to be complete as we will put the upper on and register it. We send you the forms, fingerprint cards, etc. and when the F4 is approved it is returned as a complete factory registered SBR.


    There is no reason the lowers can't be built and sold as SBR's, but manufacturers are supposed to make the NFA weapon and then register/inform the ATF of them being built. Individuals must wait for the approved F1, then make the NFA weapon.

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    Todd, does a manufacturer put any more markings on a rifle that they are registering as an SBR or does the existing make, model, caliber, etc suffice?

    I'm really trying to dial in the requirements regarding engraving my rifle when I register it as an SBR.

    Thanks,

    Vinson

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    If you are the manufacturer (i.e Form 1 build) then you are suppose to engrave the weapon with the required info. If it is a factory built and registered lower they do it already.

    Quote Originally Posted by vinsonr View Post
    Todd, does a manufacturer put any more markings on a rifle that they are registering as an SBR or does the existing make, model, caliber, etc suffice?

    I'm really trying to dial in the requirements regarding engraving my rifle when I register it as an SBR.

    Thanks,

    Vinson



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    If you are the manufacturer (i.e Form 1 build) then you are suppose to engrave the weapon with the required info.
    I've found much debate about this recently.

    There is so much conflicting information regarding NFA.
    Some of the conflicting information even comes from the ATF.

    Very confusing for someone new to NFA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polymorpheous View Post
    I've found much debate about this recently.

    There is so much conflicting information regarding NFA.
    Some of the conflicting information even comes from the ATF.

    Very confusing for someone new to NFA.
    Poly

    With a form 1 you become the maker of the SBR so you engrave your name/trust name and city and state on the gun. With a form 4 the gun has typically been SBR'd by say a traditional manufacturer LMT, BCM, DD, Colt or Noveske.

    Although you did not make the gun you made it into a SBR. So you become the maker.
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    That pretty much sums it up.

    Quote Originally Posted by usmcvet View Post
    Poly

    With a form 1 you become the maker of the SBR so you engrave your name/trust name and city and state on the gun. With a form 4 the gun has typically been SBR'd by say a traditional manufacturer LMT, BCM, DD, Colt or Noveske.

    Although you did not make the gun you made it into a SBR. So you become the maker.



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    Quote Originally Posted by usmcvet View Post
    Poly

    With a form 1 you become the maker of the SBR so you engrave your name/trust name and city and state on the gun. With a form 4 the gun has typically been SBR'd by say a traditional manufacturer LMT, BCM, DD, Colt or Noveske.

    Although you did not make the gun you made it into a SBR. So you become the maker.
    Yeah, I know all of this.
    (I'll probably end up getting it engraved in the trigger guard area.)

    I'm just commenting on all of the conflicting info out there.

    Not to mention the shit storm a thread regarding trusts creates!

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