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    Would you recommend an AR type firearm for HD

    I'm trying to decide if I should use an AR as a primary weapon for home defensive purposes (live in a house). Should I get a AR pistol, an SBR or 16"? Would a 20" M16 clone work?

    Thanks for your comments and opinions.
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    Can't beat an AR platform for home defense and area defense -imo

    Check out some of the light wt threads around here for ideas

    SBR might be ideal for your needs but a 14.5 middie with a permanent
    brake on it might also be good

    I'd say forget a pistol version the carbine platform with stock much
    more stable and with a good flashlight and red dot optic

    Also take a look at the 300 AAC Blackout that is being developed by
    AAC & Remington nice numbers out of a 9" barrel

    Main thing is to accurately ascertain your needs and then shop for
    gear & training appropriate to those needs.

    Here is a neat little light wt built for my wife...not quite finished yet
    but she finds it quite handy...just to give you an idea of what's out there





    Mega Upper & Bravo Company lower

    Bravo Company 14.5 Mid Length gassed light wt Cr lined barrel

    1.5 Battle Comp permanently attached by ADCO

    11.0 Troy Extreme Battlerail KG Koted foliage green by ADCO

    Streamlight TLR-1 (flashlight)

    Aimpoint Micro on a LaRue TActical mount (LT-751)

    Magpul MOE front pistol grip in foliage green)

    Magpul 20 rd Pmag with Ranger plate in foliage green)

    Magpul enhanced Al trigger guard

    Tango down pistol grip in foliage green

    VLTOR I-Mod collapsible stock in foliage green

    BCM bolt carrier group

    LMT enhanced charging handle

    Have a Blue Force Vickers Tactical sling for it

    Waiting on Magpul BUIS
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    My AR would be my last choice for HD. Can you imagine firing an AR much less SBR's AR in your stairwell or hallway? Now imagine the blood dripping from your ears as you try to hear if there are any other intruders. Reminds me of last week's 'The Walking Dead' on AMC when the deputy fires the .357 inside a tank. Ouch.

    Seriously though, as much as I love my Colt, my first choice is a pistol. Small, compact, and I can keep it close to my body while navigating my halls and doorways.

    That said, if there was a situation where I knew multiple intruders were entering my home then I may have to change my plans a bit.

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    I think an AR would be a terrible choice of home defense weapon, unless we're talking about zombies coming up the front walk. Inside the home, I'd want something far more maneuverable than a rifle, even an SBR. The only advantage I can see would be magazine capacity, and I just can't see a home defense situation that would need 30 rounds to resolve. Certainly not enough of an advantage to outweigh the maneuverability and ease/safety of storage of typical handgun.

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    My ar is my hd gun. They seem to be used by LE and MIL for CQC applications and work well. Maneuvering doesnt seem like a big problem for me until the bad guy would be at arms reach. If it gets that close and i cant fire the gun im gonna start biting fingers off anyway.

    As far as noise i dont get the issue inside a handgun and an AR sound the same to me, deafening. Probably wouldnt even hear it to begin with anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by locknload223 View Post
    My AR would be my last choice for HD. Can you imagine firing any centerfire weapon in your stairwell or hallway? Now imagine the blood dripping from your ears as you try to hear if there are any other intruders. Reminds me of last week's 'The Walking Dead' on AMC when the deputy fires the .357 inside a tank. Ouch.

    Seriously though, as much as I love my Colt, my first choice is a pistol. Small, compact, and I can keep it close to my body while navigating my halls and doorways.

    That said, if there was a situation where I knew multiple intruders were entering my home then I may have to change my plans a bit.
    Anything is going to permanently damage your hearing indoors.

    I use an AR as my primary HD firearm because I can quickly get good hits with the 30 very effective rounds I have on board. The aimpoint H1 and surefire x300 mean target ID in less than ideal light won't be a problem. With some practice, long gun retention is orders of magnitude easier than handgun retention.
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    No.


    Shotgun with 00 buck.

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    AR for HD is a no-go.

    Shotgun and 00 buck like the guy above.

    Simple question, simple answer.

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    An AR with some 75gr TAP is the best option period. Lethality is on par with buckshot, it fragments through walls so is less likely to overpenetrate through barriers than a shotgun or a handgun, and unlike a pump shotgun you won't short stroke it under stress. You can point a long gun faster and more accurately under stress than a handgun, and you don't lose much maneuverability. If you look at people who are clearing rooms in combat or LEO roles shotguns and handgun use is extremely limited, 9/10 times they will be using their carbine. And lastly, no, the sound of chambering a round in your Mossberg 500 is not enough to deter an intruder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjinglesusa View Post
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    Shotgun with 00 buck.
    Poor choice.


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