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Thread: Would you recommend an AR type firearm for HD

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    Dont really get the point of this thread as the whole theme of m4c is defensive/offensive use of the AR. But as long as you have a reliable AR with a good light and have practiced shooting it, it definitely seems a better choice than a shotgun or pistol. Especially when considering the effect of the 5.56 vs buck or pistol rounds. Check out the terminal ballistics and training & tactics subforums.

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    I absolutely assign the role of HD to my favorite 14.5" carbine. I EDC a pistol because I can't EDC a AR. When I'm home the pistol goes in and the AR comes out. I'm faster and better with the rifle. The Aimpoint and Surefire make threat I.D. easier than the 3 tiny glowing dots on my Glock, and the 30 rounds of 5.56 will get the job done, and I can use it as a beatin' stick if I need to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    SWAT teams are generally highly trained professionals, operating in an offensive mode. This is completely different from the not highly trained amateur in a defensive situation.

    One of the biggest mistakes I see gun owners make is emulating LEOs or Military without knowing why they use what they use. 99% of the time what an LEO uses is because of financial constraints, not because it is the best tool to be used.

    If you look at HD shootings across the US over the past few decades, you will see just about anything works, provided you can put it on target. It tends to get back to the basics - have a gun, only hits count, make hits early, etc.
    The best weapon to use for HD is on the one you train wih the MOST. That means, actually getting professional training on said weapon.

    With that said, when you compare reliability, accuracy, capacity and penetration, there is on clear winner.
    I have a HG closest to me at all times. It's purpose is to fight my way to my SBR.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kwrangln View Post
    So, if someone grew up shooting shotguns and has 20+ years of experience with them, they should set them aside for an AR that they have owned for a month or they are ****ing retarded?


    There are no absolutes, there are not one size fits all answers, it is not a black and white world. Pull your head out and think before posting crap.
    As someone that grew up "hunting" with a shotgun and ran the SKEET range for years at a local gun club, the answer is no.

    In order to run a shotgun effectively in confined spaces (like a home), one first needs some sort of room clearing experience/training.

    Having attended a shotgun school, cleared rooms and watched all the other students clear rooms, I can tell you that under the stress of paper targets, the majority of the students created malfunctions in their pump shotguns. Some so severe that that they had to disassemble their gun. Many others through pellets off targets at close ranges.

    While being comfortable with a shotgun and having loggged many hours in shoot houses, I can honestly saw that a SG would be third on my list as a HD tool.



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    Really? Do we really need to go there? This has been discussed so often. Anything short of a .22 fired indoors is going to jack up your hearing. Pistol, rifle or shotgun. Will a shotgun work? Absolutely. Is it my first choice? No. I keep the G19 next to the bed and the suppressed SBR.

    There are serious considerations of over penetration with shotguns (slugs and 00 buck.) And anyone who recommends "bird shot" seriously needs their heads examined.

    With an AR you will get a weapon that will put someone down quickly when loaded with the right stuff. And there is less chance of over penetration.



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