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Thread: Company changing the barrel on my new upper due to poor accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    You guys that are (were) clamoring to know the manufacturer are missing the point of the thread.

    As I read his post ghostman is looking to increase his knowledgebase by asking what would cause a 3' group at 50 yards (just to be clear, this an actual, measured, "group"? How many rounds? Pictures of the target?).

    GM, since you said it's a 14.5" we can assume pinned muzzle device as well? So there's no real way for you to inspect the crown? If so, I wonder if the drill press didn't get ahead of someone and the pin got inserted too deep (yes, I know the press should have a stop on it to prevent this) or the crown somehow got damaged in the process.

    Just chalk it up to chaos theory, or so I'm told.
    Isn't the whole point of this forum to be an "informed buyer"? I think its imperative to know who the manufacturer (or in this case assembler) is. Especially since its not an isolated incident. But, as expected BCM made it right.

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    We are talking about 2 uppers as you aptly pointed out. Two out of how many? It's not like it's a chornic problem and they didn't address it.

    Quote Originally Posted by seacoastnh View Post
    Two uppers from the same company with the same problem in a relatively short period of time. Probably no need to know the manufacturer.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Canonshooter View Post
    Actually Sherlock, it had nothing to do with ego stroking. It was simply to help illustrate that BCM makes a quality product and stands behind them - enough so that they made me a happy camper and am willing to illustrate the outcome of my dealings with them with a photo of their product.

    Maybe you need to chill a bit?

    Edit - uh oh, seacoastnh just reposted another photo of mine. I got some cold ones in the frig that I'm willing to send your way to help you deal with it (if you'd like).
    No, no worries. I already downloaded your photo, cropped off your copyright, imported it into photoshop, manipulated it, and will be legally using it for a t-shirt design. Much better then a cold beer...

    Photos do nothing for the purpose of a conversation unless you give more then a tidbit of information regarding why you are posting them. That is my only point. The contribution of your photograph did nothing for this topic other then to show off what you own, and thus how cool you are.

    And lets not forget that you heavily edited post #22 since I first suggested you remove the photo. At the time all you posted was a picture of your kick ass blaster, and a single line statement regarding how you like BCM. No link to your past thread, no explanation like the one currently found in post #22, just a picture of your blaster. Sorry bro...

    But since I dragged and dropped your photo into my "work" folder, I'm not too upset, and I must say I do appreciate your contribution to my database of imagery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belmont31R View Post
    We could list off reasons why a gun could group 3' at 50 yards but its not going to help the OP figure out why his particular gun did what it did. None of us have access to it or likely the tools needed to figure it out.
    you don't need the gun to offer suggestions as to what might cause it. Which is what the OP is looking for. See below.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtyboy333 View Post
    Isn't the whole point of this forum to be an "informed buyer"? I think its imperative to know who the manufacturer (or in this case assembler) is. Especially since its not an isolated incident. But, as expected BCM made it right.
    From the OP the point of this thread is not to inform the public, it's to expand his own knowledge about what may cause that kind of inaccuracy.

    My question is is what can be so bad about a new barrel that would cause it shoot that way and the company decide to change it? Bad crown?

    I was wondering if one of the more educated members here could give me some ideas why they would decide to re barrel it. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac5.56 View Post
    I do think it is fixable though if you still have the BM guns, don't know if it is worth it though.
    At the point of getting 12 inch groups at 100 yards from both rifles, I bitched to my various gun friends. One fellow, instead of offering a fix, said a friend of his would be interested in the guns. So I gave the guns to that fellow who showed them to his friend who purchased them. Perhaps the friend knew a cheap way to correct the problem, or perhaps he planned on very close shots so accuracy did not matter. In either even, from then on I have always thought of the medical term when I hear someone talking of BM.


    Previously one of the guns did not feed so I sent it back to BM and they repaired it for free.

    This experience was one of many that I had which turned me from a penny pincher on AR15s to a buyer who demands the best quality.

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    We put the barrel under our bore scope and did not like the way it looked. So we just immediately swapped out the barrel.

    We ship thousands + barrels/guns per month. We have seen 3 or 4 returns in the last 6 weeks. Very small percentage, but still something that we are not happy with. Prior to this bore scope inspection was done on batch samples. It is now being done on 100% on all barrels.

    Long and short, we will always take care of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BravoCompanyUSA View Post
    We put the barrel under our bore scope and did not like the way it looked. So we just immediately swapped out the barrel.

    We ship thousands + barrels/guns per month. We have seen 3 or 4 returns in the last 6 weeks. Very small percentage, but still something that we are not happy with. Prior to this bore scope inspection was done on batch samples. It is now being done on 100% on all barrels.

    Long and short, we will always take care of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BravoCompanyUSA View Post
    We put the barrel under our bore scope and did not like the way it looked. So we just immediately swapped out the barrel.

    We ship thousands + barrels/guns per month. We have seen 3 or 4 returns in the last 6 weeks. Very small percentage, but still something that we are not happy with. Prior to this bore scope inspection was done on batch samples. It is now being done on 100% on all barrels.

    Long and short, we will always take care of it.

    Thanks,
    Paul
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    I expected nothing less from BCM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 500grains View Post
    At the point of getting 12 inch groups at 100 yards from both rifles, I bitched to my various gun friends. One fellow, instead of offering a fix, said a friend of his would be interested in the guns. So I gave the guns to that fellow who showed them to his friend who purchased them. Perhaps the friend knew a cheap way to correct the problem, or perhaps he planned on very close shots so accuracy did not matter. In either even, from then on I have always thought of the medical term when I hear someone talking of BM.


    Previously one of the guns did not feed so I sent it back to BM and they repaired it for free.

    This experience was one of many that I had which turned me from a penny pincher on AR15s to a buyer who demands the best quality.
    Yea I agree that you made the right decision but I figured I would tell you about the fix incase you had them and they were gathering dust somewhere.
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