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    Are you guys not understanding what has happened?

    IF THAT IS THE EXACT FIREARM THAT IS FOR SALE, BUT WITHOUT THE STOCK, THAT MEANS THE SELLER HAS AN UNREGISTERED SBR IN THE PICTURE.

    I believe the only way the seller could have got away with the alleged unregistered SBR in the picture is if he was a Class 2 SOT holder, in which would allow him to manufacture NFA firearms.

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    Maybe the folks at Bud's already know this and have covered their bases

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    In addition to that the seller is in Washington State which prohibits SBR's except for certain circumstances.

    Quote Originally Posted by kal View Post
    Are you guys not understanding what has happened?

    IF THAT IS THE EXACT FIREARM THAT IS FOR SALE, BUT WITHOUT THE STOCK, THAT MEANS THE SELLER HAS AN UNREGISTERED SBR IN THE PICTURE.

    I believe the only way the seller could have got away with the alleged unregistered SBR in the picture is if he was a Class 2 SOT holder, in which would allow him to manufacture NFA firearms.



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    Someone correct me if I am wrong. Adding just the foregrip is also a violation of NFA laws as well.



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    Adding just the foregrip is also a violation of NFA laws as well.
    Yes, put a foregrip on a pistol and it's an AOW.

    I call it the "tommy gun law".

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdc0000 View Post
    The way I read the ad it will be in pistol configuration and not SBR NFA. That way the seller does not have to do an NFA transfer and it is up to the buyer if he leaves it in pistol or decides to go NFA SBR or SBP.

    This goes under the category of butting into someone else's business and I think you should edit the title of the ad very quickly and change it to reflect reality instead of your perceived reality based on a picture in the ad.
    If the gun has been registered as an SBR, as it would have to be to be legally in that configuration, it remains an SBR (and thus would require an NFA-compliant transfer) even if he takes the stock (and forward grip for that matter) off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmguy View Post
    If the gun has been registered as an SBR, as it would have to be to be legally in that configuration, it remains an SBR (and thus would require an NFA-compliant transfer) even if he takes the stock (and forward grip for that matter) off.
    Incorrect.
    Prior to transferring the gun the owner (the guy with the tax stamp) can notify the ATF that he wishes to remove it from the registry and have the stamp invalidated.
    Once it has been removed from the registry and returned to pistol configuration it can be sold as a pistol.
    If the new owner wishes to add the stock and foregrip it is up to him to get it approved on a Form 1 prior to taking possession of the stock and foregrip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JodyH View Post
    Incorrect.
    Prior to transferring the gun the owner (the guy with the tax stamp) can notify the ATF that he wishes to remove it from the registry and have the stamp invalidated.
    Once it has been removed from the registry and returned to pistol configuration it can be sold as a pistol.
    If the new owner wishes to add the stock and foregrip it is up to him to get it approved on a Form 1 prior to taking possession of the stock and foregrip.
    What I said wasn't necessarily incorrect, just maybe incomplete. Yes he can have it removed from the NFR...but that wasn't what I was getting at. Just taking the stock off doesn't make it a non-SBR even if it is in non-SBR configuration. That's the point. If it's in the NFR, it's a NFA weapon until it's not in the NFR and must be treated as such.
    Last edited by Palmguy; 11-13-10 at 19:38.

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    This sounds like a case of assuming far to much with the information at hand to me.
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