M&P: Do they all need upgrades?

[SpookyPistolero]

Howdy folks-

I'm thinking of selling a piece I own and may get an M&P9 to take its place. I need the skinny on how necessary the Apex upgrades are to the reliability and 'shootability' of this platform. Or put another way, is it necessary to order one with all the work done by Grant, or should I be good to go with one out of the box? I don't care to pay a bit more for quality, but if I can do it with less I'd be happy. I just don't have any tolerance for malfunctions.

And part two: If the Apex upgrades really are that necessary, which ones on the list of options through G&R Tactical are needed, or are they all?

Thanks much-

[dvdlpzus]

I am no gun expert at all but reliability wise no. If you want a lighter trigger then Apex is a good choice. I am not a very good shooter, therefore a lighter trigger does make a difference for my confidence. When I shoot DCAEK vs. STOCK I don't see that big of a difference on paper targets.

[Palmguy]

The benefit of the Apex kit isn't really a reduced pull weight, it's an overall improvement in the quality of the pull. M&Ps out of the box can have a sort of crunchy trigger pull that the Apex sear and particularly the striker block really rectify. In my opinion of course...

[MarshallDodge]

Mine is pretty much stock. I have done a few things to reduce takeup and overtravel but the trigger is still pretty much the stock weight.

It was a little gritty at first but after several hundred rounds and a little lube on the contact points it smoothed out.

[beastfrog]

is it necessary to order one with all the work done by Grant, or should I be good to go with one out of the box? I don't care to pay a bit more for quality, but if I can do it with less I'd be happy. I just don't have any tolerance for malfunctions.

No, it's not necessary. Reliability is best with the stock pistol. The larger sear plunger and sear spring help with reliability, especially if you have the Apex or PC sears. If you want smoother, use the APEX USB or smooth it yourself.

[crusader377]

I don't think you need to upgrade a M&P. I have a stock M&P and I have been very happy with the trigger. I find the pull to be very reasonable and it has a good reset. An apex upgrade may be nice but I think the stock trigger is still very capable of giving you very good accuracy and speed.

[variablebinary]

No. Mine is stock.

The only thing I plan on changing is the sights. It currently does not have night sights.

[arbninftry]

I dont think you have to upgrade anything. I still am shooting the crap out of mine, its just stock. Put a couple hundred or more rounds through one and then if you dont like it, upgrade it later on down the road. Might be a better option for you.

[Lucky Strike]

My biggest issue with the M&P stock triggers is the "did it or didn't it" reset that they have. On the couple that i've shot as you're letting out the trigger there are a couple spots where it feels like it's reset but it really hasn't yet. The gritty take-up (i'm assuming that'd be something that'd smooth out over time) isn't pleasant but it doesn't bother me as much as the false resets

If the Apex stuff gets rid of this (i'm assuming it does) then whatever part that's responsible for doing that would be considered a must have item for me.

My friend sent his off to Burwell to get his trigger work so that's how he solved the issue.

[beastfrog]

If the Apex stuff gets rid of this (i'm assuming it does) then whatever part that's responsible for doing that would be considered a must have item for me.

Apex USB or smooth it yourself. Really easy.