View Poll Results: Best Hard Use 5.56

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  • KAC SR15 E3

    113 53.30%
  • Noveske Light Carbine LO PRO (chrome lined barrel)

    64 30.19%
  • SCAR 16

    35 16.51%
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    Quote Originally Posted by bkb0000 View Post
    if we're gonna start talking about putting together the perfect gun, my answer would go from "colt," to something that contained zero colt parts. that changes everything.

    my problem with each of these manufacturers is that they each do one or two things that i consider fatally wrong, in a fighting gun. if you remove those one or two things, they jump up to "cream of the crop." i would imagine that a LOT of people would consider a kac lower, noveske upper, and bcm bcg about as close to a perfect firearm as you're gonna get. i'd leave out the kac lower, myself, since i don't use nor want ambi controls... but a noveske CHF barrel could very easily top out any list i'd make.
    Out of curiosity what is the fatal flaw of the KAC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by No Bananas View Post
    Out of curiosity what is the fatal flaw of the KAC?
    proprietary parts, they don't HPT, and all those ambi controls are just more failure points, in my opinion. am i pissing on KAC? no- they're just not my thing.

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    I went with KAC mainly just because im in love with them.

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    i like my retro 603 , m16 upper, no-dak lower.
    its mine.
    its what i have.
    it's paid for.


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    i started this life with nothing.....kept most of it.

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    This is a great read since I am currently looking at replacing the upper on my 6920. Nothing wrong with it, I just want a midlength system and possibly 14.5" barrel. I am not sure yet what upper to go with. This rifle needs to be as reliable as one can get since it will be my patrol rifle. I have been looking at the DD's and an SR15 upper. KAC will give me LEO discount on one so thats a big plus! I like all the customization DD offers. As far as Noveske goes, I just dont like their rails. I wold reconsider if I could get one of their rifles with a midlength and a DD lite rail.

    By the Way I have to keep my 6920 lower on this build to make my dept happy, they only allow personal rifles as long as it is a COLT or a RRA.

    I dont mean to hijack the thread, I am just torn with this sdecision.
    Last edited by OTO27; 11-18-10 at 02:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTO27 View Post
    This is a great read since I am currently looking at replacing the upper on my 6920. Nothing wrong with it, I just want a midlength system and possibly 14.5" barrel. I am not sure yet what upper to go with. This rifle needs to be as reliable as one can get since it will be my patrol rifle. I have been looking at the DD's and an SR15 upper. KAC will give me LEO discount on one so thats a big plus! I like all the customization DD offers. As far as Noveske goes, I just dont like their rails. I wold reconsider if I could get one of their rifles with a midlength and a DD lite rail.

    By the Way I have to keep my 6920 lower on this build to make my dept happy, they only allow personal rifles as long as it is a COLT or a RRA.

    I dont mean to hijack the thread, I am just torn with this sdecision.
    You might consider having a look at Centurion Arms. Their barrels have a 1 MOA gaurantee (with match ammo) and they sell complete uppers w/ 12" DD lite rails. They have 14.5 & 16" barrles w/ a middy gas system. I doubt that anyone will dispute the quality of their barrels. Yes, they are HPT, MP, LCD, OPP, TCB, and PYT tested.
    http://www.centurionarms.com/index.p...mart&Itemid=47
    Last edited by No Bananas; 11-18-10 at 07:30.
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    I'll say 'none of the above'. There are plenty of carbines that are up to hard use. Best is subjective.

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    I posted this poll for these three choices. All are widely respected as top tier. There are many features of any and all rifles that ultimately fall on preference. In my review, most based on my preferences, I have chosen these three rifles and asked what folks would prefer of these three. Some folks post "I choose none of the above." I didn't designate a choice for this. If you wouldn't prefer any of them, then don't vote, and there's no need to post. If you have a critique of the rifles in question, the information is most appreciated. Thanks.
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    I normally would have voted for the SR-15 as being the "best" for most people, but given the parameter of "hard use," you're throwing some dynamics into the mix.

    If you're going to continually run your gun hard, then chances are something is going to break at one time or another. Given that, the Noveske is the only rifle that utilizes widely available parts and is much easier to service.

    Therefore, I voted for the Noveske.

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    Proprietary parts and running hard

    In my opinion the concern over proprietary parts is overblown. If you are running a gun hard you are probably to busy at the time to replace any parts because you are taking fire. What you want is a gun that has the lowest probability of parts failure. It appears the SR-15 has this advantage over other ARs. If you are someplace where running a gun hard is probable, you should not have gone there without a supply of the parts most likely needing replacement after you have survived. It is my understanding parts are readily available from KAC and in a pinch a conventional bolt assemble can be used. I do not think SpecOps personnel who are frequently far from direct support maintenance would be using KAC rifles if they shared the concerns I see some posters expressing.

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