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Thread: Trend away from quad rails to less-railed hand guards?

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    I put an Omega on one of my carbines earlier this year; to be honest, after living with it I'm unlikely to do another quadrail. If I need free float, I much prefer what I get with my TRX-E; otherwise, A2 corncobs or MOE handguards work best for me.

    I just don't need all that rail space and much prefer smaller diameter handguards.
    Ken in Illinois

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHart View Post
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    DHART

    Thank you for sharing. I can not begin to imagine the pain you and your family have been through with the loss of your son. My boy is eight and my girls are 3 & 5. Your Son and those fighting with him have kept my kids safe here at home. I will be forever greatful. I just tucked my son into bed and could not help but to think of your boy.

    Your post seems to have disappeared. Here is a photo of my VTAC QD sling mount and a link to a better photo.

    http://www.vikingtactics.com/prod_vtac_lpsm.html

    I like it because it does not require me to use any additional rails. If you have the Troy tube they make an even smaller option that goes right in one of the holes on the rail.



    Here is the Troy QD mount.

    http://store.troyind.com/Q_D_Swivel_...rx-herp-00.htm
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    I am pretty much a newbie to ARs as well, but I'll give this one a shot.


    When I first started getting into ARs I didnt see why everyone wanted rails and all sorts of crap slapped on thier rifles. I thought quad rails were ugly, and too heavy to be even slightly useful for someone like myself who just wanted to have a range toy/SHTF rifle.

    I started liking the look of rails but after shooting a bunch of ARs I decided the MOE handguard was the only way to go for me. I put the MOE on my S&W 5.45 upper, put an RVG on it, and bout a 7 slot rail for the side to mount a light on it as well. That set up "worked" but I found myself using the RVG to just "stop" my hand and I always had my hand pretty far forward on the handguard, but I kept it so far forward, I kept on touching the barrel, and after a few mags, that wasn't so pleasant!!!

    I have been looking into midlength uppers, and figured I could just get a midlength MOE to throw on there and call it a day. Then I made the mistake of fondling my friends Spikes piston upper with a quad rail and ladder covers. WOW. That was a mistake and a blessing all at the same time. It felt GREAT, damn near perfect actually.

    So pretty soon, I will have a middy, with a quad rail and ladder covers. Yeah its heavier. No I'm not any sort of "operator", and I dont care to have the most "tacticool" gun on the range. But it is very comfortable in my hands, and I started really liking the looks as well. I guess you all can give me shit too because I will buy something because I like the way it looks also (like anyone you drive cars you think are ugly!!!).

    All in all, I think that maybe a lot of younger first time buyers bought the rails because the Call of Duty guns have them, but lately it seems to be about what works for each person, which is a good thing. It gives everyone a chance to peace together thier ideal set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Facejackets View Post
    I am pretty much a newbie to ARs as well, but I'll give this one a shot.


    When I first started getting into ARs I didnt see why everyone wanted rails and all sorts of crap slapped on thier rifles. I thought quad rails were ugly, and too heavy to be even slightly useful for someone like myself who just wanted to have a range toy/SHTF rifle.

    I started liking the look of rails but after shooting a bunch of ARs I decided the MOE handguard was the only way to go for me. I put the MOE on my S&W 5.45 upper, put an RVG on it, and bout a 7 slot rail for the side to mount a light on it as well. That set up "worked" but I found myself using the RVG to yjust "stop" my hand and I always had my hand pretty far forward on the handguard, but I kept it so far forward, I kept on touching the barrel, and after a few mags, that wasn't so pleasant!!!

    I have been looking into midlength uppers, and figured I could just get a midlength MOE to throw on there and call it a day. Then I made the mistake of fondling my friends Spikes piston upper with a quad rail and ladder covers. WOW. That was a mistake and a blessing all at the same time. It felt GREAT, damn near perfect actually.

    So pretty soon, I will have a middy, with a quad rail and ladder covers. Yeah its heavier. No I'm not any sort of "operator", and I dont care to have the most "tacticool" gun on the range. But it is very comfortable in my hands, and I started really liking the looks as well. I guess you all can give me shit too because I will buy something because I like the way it looks also (like anyone you drive cars you think are ugly!!!).

    All in all, I think that maybe a lot of younger first time buyers bought the rails because the Call of Duty guns have them, but lately it seems to be about what works for each person, which is a good thing. It gives everyone a chance to peace together thier ideal set up.
    What's Call of Duty?
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    Just kidding. I've never played it.
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Facejackets View Post
    (like anyone you drive cars you think are ugly!!!).
    White 1996 Grand Am GT with enough hail damage to look like a golf ball.

    But my guns do look awesome!

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    For a while, rail systems were the only way to get free-floatiness on a rifle. Now there are less expensive, lighter alternatives to free-float rails for those who have no need for anything more than space to put a light, front sight, and maybe vert grip/AFG on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Facejackets View Post
    So pretty soon, I will have a middy, with a quad rail and ladder covers. Yeah its heavier. No I'm not any sort of "operator", and I dont care to have the most "tacticool" gun on the range. But it is very comfortable in my hands, and I started really liking the looks as well. I guess you all can give me shit too because I will buy something because I like the way it looks also...
    I say good on you, man, if the setup feels right to you, does what you need it to do, and you like the looks, that's all that matters! I think it's great that we have so incredibly many choices in how to set up our rifles... Only in America!
    Last edited by DHart; 11-17-10 at 22:34.

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    Do the TRX Extreme/VTAC rails get hot when shooting a lot, like in a carbine course, without any rail covers on them? I've never tried them, but they seem like a good choice if you're looking for a light weight carbine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell92 View Post
    Do the TRX Extreme/VTAC rails get hot when shooting a lot, like in a carbine course, without any rail covers on them? I've never tried them, but they seem like a good choice if you're looking for a light weight carbine.
    yes... They provide less insulation from heat than some other designs. if you're going to be doing a lot of mag dumps and such, it's not a bad idea to wear a glove. An AFG helps with this as well. never a free lunch no matter what choice you make, is there!
    Last edited by DHart; 11-17-10 at 23:22.

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    i have one rifle with rail's.

    a RR lower ADDAX upper and troy rails. 20'' A4.
    its nice,


    but my ''goto'' gun is the retro 603. old vietnam triangular handguards, and camo tape all over them.

    super simple and light weight. i dont have anything mounted on it.
    i started this life with nothing.....kept most of it.

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