What is old is new again. . .
I remember back when you were the coolest kid on the block if you ran an A.R.M.S. SIR on your gun.![]()
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What is old is new again. . .
I remember back when you were the coolest kid on the block if you ran an A.R.M.S. SIR on your gun.![]()
"In a nut shell, if it ever goes to Civil War, I'm afraid I'll be in the middle 70%, shooting at both sides" — 26 Inf
"We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon 10/30/18
I can definitely see the advantage to a light, simple forend. For my own use I have one AR15 that I repurpose for different types of shooting and so having a quad rail is worth a bit more weight. It's definitely an application specific decision.
That would be my biggest concern. Even under normal range shooting conditions, I often notice plastic hand guards getting quite warm. Noticeably better with Magpul, and barely can tell on quad rails with Magpul covers. I like the looks of the VTAC/Troy setups, and I like the idea of the lighter weight, but I would worry about them heating up.
I have a S&W M&P 15X with lots of rail space. The only thing I have on the rails is a flashlight mount & MagPul rail covers. (If I didn't have rails, I wouldn't have the rail covers either.) I've tried & looked at all kinds of goodies, but all I want on my M4 is the light mount, Aimpoint & sling.
I have to keep things simple, 'cause I'm old & get confused easily.
"It's hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong."
Thomas Sowell
As I alluded to in my earlier post, the "round" Rail Systems really allow you to use the BEST muzzle control device out there. Your THUMB!
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I have to agree with Grant. I came to the same conclusion - I "need" a rail in the sense that I want a free-floated barrel and I need the upper portion of railing to attach flip-up sights and a weaponlight, but I HATE the weight that they add.
I was running (still am, actually) a Noveske Recon with 11" rail, NF NXS, UBR - basically a compact precision package - and the darn thing weighs in at 11 lbs! Now, in my own defense, it was never supposed to be a run-and-gun carbine, it was simply my precision setup. However, building it allowed me to learn what I did want and didn't want in a "working" gun.
The Troy rails fit your hand much better due to the circular profile and the flat portion of the rail works very well as a thumbstop/grip-point. And then there's the weight savings.
Last edited by Skyyr; 11-18-10 at 10:16.
I'm looking for a handguard and this thread is making me re think my "need" for a quad rail.
I really like the options that a quad rail affords. No, I am not any type of operator that hangs a ton of stuff off the front end but I really like being able to move what I have around. As of right now all I have mounted to my rail is my sling and my light mount and also the rail covers. I am left handed when it comes to shooting rifles and my kids are all right handed so if they like to do a little shooting it takes all of fifteen seconds to reconfigure the sling and light mount. Also if I decide to throw on a bipod for some shooting it is a viable option. Of course this is just my opinion.
The versatility would be great, but I can't really afford the versatility that is afforded. ;-D
Last edited by gr7070; 11-18-10 at 14:33.
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