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Thread: Trend away from quad rails to less-railed hand guards?

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    My experience has been that when I got my first AR, a LMT SOPMOD Standard, that the easiest way to getting a VFG and light on it was an Omega rail ($250). I knew I want to free-float the barrel simply because it didn't take much thought that no pressure points on the barrel = GOOD.

    Fast forward 2 months and I decided that I wanted my light, a TLR-1, to go further forward as to not cast a shadow from the barrel. This led me to a Troy MRF-R ($270). I learned how to cut the FSB down to a low-profile gas block and it took about 2 hours since it was my first time making sparks fly. Then I figured the rifle was getting too damn heavy. What to do, what to do....

    After doing lots of reading and seeing TLR-1/2s and X3/400s go to a 12 o'clock mount and not wanting to have the light cast a shadow on the barrel I decided to build my 7.62x39 AR Pistol. I also knew I wanted the flash hider to be the only thing sticking out past the rail. Figuring out my budget for the gun gave me a few options for a rail. It worked out that YHMs Specter LW rail would be perfect to have only a flash hider protrude from and give sufficient barrel length past the carbine gas port for reliability. And it was $99---

    I am getting the bug again to build another upper, perhaps as a 5.56/.22conv for my GF and her daughter because I'm tempted to use a TRX Extreme rail due to the lightness of it. Seeing all these rifles with TRX/VTACs on them does tell me that it's probably the right way to go for a gun that would only have a red dot on it as it would be a learning tool for my GF and her daughter and anyone else wanting to shoot it.

    I didn't say much about my 6.5 Grendel because it's a heavy sucker with the 20" mid-heavy profile bbl and a 4-16x50 scope, but it does have a JP/VTAC on it. Very nice handguard that I almost should've put on another rifle, but should I decide I want one of those I'll be able to get my hands on it for about $146
    30 caliber junkie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gr7070 View Post
    The versatility would be great, but I can't really afford the versatility that is afforded. ;-D
    Are you talking about quad rails or the Troy/VTAC type forends? Quality quad rails are definitely pricey and outta my budget, but as far as the other forends go; the MOE is very light and versitle and the way to go. Or just do what I did, look at the DD and Larue prices long enough and it makes the Troy/VTAC look like a steal!

    -JR

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    Cannot afford? I don't get that...is this the right place for you? If you are at all a serious shooter, you will spend many times that a year just in ammo.

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    I dont know, but my mission set for my rifle needed these things in order:

    1. Worry-free strength without fear of the forend losening or breaking
    2. free float so the POI was not altered by resting the gun, sling, light mounts, ect.
    3. Weight.


    Given those to things, I decided on either a larue, or DD free float tube. DD had the edge in weight and slight edge in durability, so I went with that one. If the Troy Vtac/Extreme came with a barrel nut lock-up in the same level of strenght as the DD or Larue, I would have gone that way. But several reports from here of even rare failures in the Troy rail lockup steered me away from that. I am far from a gunsmith and working on these things after install is not within the my own little heirarchy of needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djegators View Post
    Cannot afford? I don't get that...is this the right place for you? If you are at all a serious shooter, you will spend many times that a year just in ammo.
    You don't get that people place limits on their spending?

    I can afford ammo.

    I cannot afford ammo and extra on uneeded or not used accessories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gr7070 View Post
    You don't get that people place limits on their spending?

    I can afford ammo.

    I cannot afford ammo and extra on uneeded or not used accessories.


    Not going any further off topic, and I apologize for already having done so. Every one has a budget, and everyone allocates funds as they seem fit. Just seems to me that the one time expense of a few hundred dollars is small in grand scheme of owning and shooting carbines, especially since most here have top line gear and put a lot of ammo down range on a regular basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlindSpooch View Post
    Are you talking about quad rails or the Troy/VTAC type forends? Quality quad rails are definitely pricey and outta my budget, but as far as the other forends go; the MOE is very light and versitle and the way to go. Or just do what I did, look at the DD and Larue prices long enough and it makes the Troy/VTAC look like a steal!

    -JR
    Yeah, the cost of the quad rails.

    I'm currently most interested in the MOE stuff. Looks like it will meet my needs well and is much better priced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djegators View Post
    Just seems to me that the one time expense of a few hundred dollars is small in grand scheme of owning and shooting carbines, especially since most here have top line gear and put a lot of ammo down range on a regular basis.
    Understood.

    To me the one time costs of some of these things just isn't worth the return, especially when combined with my intended use and that I can buy half of another good handgun for the price.

    Plus I'm probably not the typical [future] AR owner here. It's I'll be far from my primary shooter, and mostly used for the occasional plinking and AR games. I'm primarily a handgunner and shotgunner.

    This is largely why I'm looking at "bargain" brands without quad rails on them, like the S&W M&P15 MOE.

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    IMO there is no need for a rail when IWC makes a bunch of stuff for the MOE handguard to mount a sling, light, etc.


    Last edited by yellowv; 11-18-10 at 19:16.

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    How is muzzle jump/rise affected, if at all, when you drop up to a pound from the front of the gun (lightweight barrel/lightweight handguards)?
    Last edited by MookNW; 11-18-10 at 19:11.

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